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re: Comey’s dramatic account on Trump rocks Washington- Katie Williams of The Hill
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:20 pm to TheCheshireHog
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:20 pm to TheCheshireHog
quote:He met with Obama a ton of times. He just didn't meet with him in private.
Why not? I'm frankly bothered by the fact he only met with Obama twice. That seems absurdly low for such an important arm of the country.
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:21 pm to larry289
This is not obstruction and the OP knows it. There was no threat, no order issued nor any quid pro quo offered.
Even if there had been, there is serious doubt as to whether that would amount to anything since Trump has the authority to do just that.
I challenge the OP to tell us that an obstruction charge will be made, and when there is not I will laugh that individual off the board.
Even if there had been, there is serious doubt as to whether that would amount to anything since Trump has the authority to do just that.
I challenge the OP to tell us that an obstruction charge will be made, and when there is not I will laugh that individual off the board.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:23 pm to fouldeliverer
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The President shouldn't be having nine one on one meetings with the head of the FBI
This is why you should always be ignored. The prez is the FBI Directors boss. When the Constitution was written, the FBI didn't exist. So nothing since then changes the fact that the director is an employee of the prez. Just like the Education Secretary
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This board may choose to focus on the vindication that Trump wasn't personally being investigated:
Which means THERE WAS NO OBSTRUCTION. Because the prez could pardon Flynn, which by definition is legalized obstruction. Ford did it to Nixon. Nothing burger
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And after tomorrow I think most independents and moderates will have a more negative view of the President and his actions.
No, they will hear Comey say that he never felt Trump obstructed him. That Trump has the right to fire him. And that he obstructed justice by publicly letting Hillary off the hook
They will hate Comey when all is said and done
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:23 pm to fouldeliverer
I didn't even have to read the post. I just knew it was anti Trump solely based on the downvotes.
It's not even summer yet and Trumpkin snowflakes be melting.
It's not even summer yet and Trumpkin snowflakes be melting.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:24 pm to fouldeliverer
I don't think that you are as well informed as you think you are.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:24 pm to fouldeliverer
Would a tarmac have been a better setting?
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:32 pm to antibarner
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I challenge the OP to tell us that an obstruction charge will be made, and when there is not I will laugh that individual off the board.
I don't think there will be an obstruction charge.
It's almost as if as soon as people realize that a post is anti-Trump their reading comprehension nears zero. My point as I stated it is that Trump acted inappropriately and I think after the hearing most independents would agree. Also this will hurt him politically.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:33 pm to RobbBobb
You hit the nail on the head. The FBI is part of the executive branch. Trump is the head of that branch. He can do pretty much what he wants when it comes to hiring or directing a buereau's direction. It's like people have forgotten or never been taught civics.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:40 pm to RobbBobb
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This is why you should always be ignored. The prez is the FBI Directors boss. When the Constitution was written, the FBI didn't exist. So nothing since then changes the fact that the director is an employee of the prez. Just like the Education Secretary
Awful analogy, my point was that there is no reason for him to have one on one meetings with the FBI Director while that Director is investigating his associates. Seriously, that's pretty fricking logical.
The perception of it isn't good, politics often times is more about perception than reality. It wasn't a smart move by Trump. That's it. It isn't much to admit that perhaps it would've been a good idea to have other witnesses in the meeting so I don't know if Comey accuses him of obstruction (if) they'll be witnesses to state otherwise.
It is utterly baffling to me how this is some crazy notion. It's not even inflammatory lol. Trump should have had other people in those meetings.
The ridiculous lengths you people go to to defend straightforward criticisms is scary cultish.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:43 pm to RobbBobb
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This board may choose to focus on the vindication that Trump wasn't personally being investigated:
Which means THERE WAS NO OBSTRUCTION. Because the prez could pardon Flynn, which by definition is legalized obstruction. Ford did it to Nixon. Nothing burger
Uh what? So the President can't obstruct an investigation unless he's the target of investigation? How does that make any sense?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:06 am to Kjun Tiger
Are you aware the FBI director is a direct subordinate of the president?
The fact that culturally people believe intelligence committees are "independent" of the presidency is why the deep state is so pervasive... and probably why JFK was assassinated.
Are you also aware that the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATION does not levy charges against a party? They merely gather intelligence to present during criminal proceedings?
Therefore when Comey stated he didn't believe charges were necessary against HRC during her e-mail scandal... this was incredibly unprecedented and far outside the realm of duty for the director of the FBI?
Comey is an idiot. A Clinton machine lapdog. And the lynch pin of the swamp.
He's also a gigantic pussy.
The fact that culturally people believe intelligence committees are "independent" of the presidency is why the deep state is so pervasive... and probably why JFK was assassinated.
Are you also aware that the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATION does not levy charges against a party? They merely gather intelligence to present during criminal proceedings?
Therefore when Comey stated he didn't believe charges were necessary against HRC during her e-mail scandal... this was incredibly unprecedented and far outside the realm of duty for the director of the FBI?
Comey is an idiot. A Clinton machine lapdog. And the lynch pin of the swamp.
He's also a gigantic pussy.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:08 am to fouldeliverer
Keep melting you worthless bitch
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:13 am to bencoleman
So someone is NOT a target of an investigation. Not a part of it, and is suffering harm because of lies being spread that he is.
There is no good reason why Comey could not have said the President is not a target. NONE. Since he was not involved why not let the public know to prevent the lies and innuendoes hurting an innocent man?
Comey allowed the President to go through all of this smear campaign for no valid reason and for that alone he should have been fired.
There is no good reason why Comey could not have said the President is not a target. NONE. Since he was not involved why not let the public know to prevent the lies and innuendoes hurting an innocent man?
Comey allowed the President to go through all of this smear campaign for no valid reason and for that alone he should have been fired.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 12:15 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:27 am to fouldeliverer
Debate what? You arent looking for an honest debate...you are a shill who peddles fake news
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:28 am to fouldeliverer
quote:Because he has the Constitutional, unchallengeable authority to pardon. That in and of itself is obstruction. And very legal
Uh what? So the President can't obstruct an investigation unless he's the target of investigation? How does that make any sense?
Try to keep up. And it doesn't matter what the perception is. Because in a 2nd term, a prez doesn't even have to worry about re-election
-Ford pardoned Nixon. No obstruction
-Bush pardoned Weinberger. No obstruction
-Clinton pardoned McDougal. No obstruction
-Clinton pardoned Marc Rich. No obstruction
-Nixon pardoned Jimmy Hoffa. No obstruction
-Bush pardoned Eliot Abrams
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The American president has the ability to circumvent the justice system by issuing official pardons to anyone of his choosing. Unlike most executive powers, the authority to grant clemency is unchecked by Congress and cannot be reviewed, blocked or overturned.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:50 am to bamafan1001
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Debate what? You arent looking for an honest debate...you are a shill who peddles fake news
How is that article fake news exactly?
Y'all have really bought into Trumps all negative news us fake news.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 5:52 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:53 am to fouldeliverer
You need to believe that dribble.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:53 am to bencoleman
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Keep melting you worthless bitch
Sounds like you're the one melting lol
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:57 am to rebeloke
What the hell is wrong with you people, the article merely lays out a timeline of Trumps meetings with Comey. Is mainly just quotes by Comey. How is that fake news lol? It's not even an opinionated article just objectively lays out what Comey stated.
It's like y'all unithinking automatons who are only capable of sputtering "melt" and "fake news".
It's like y'all unithinking automatons who are only capable of sputtering "melt" and "fake news".
Posted on 6/8/17 at 6:08 am to fouldeliverer
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opinionated article
There's the rub, an opinion. Pretty sure most of us on the other side of your argument like dealing in facts. Let's say the fact is the timelining she espouses is right. The fact is, nothing illegal has been done.
That's the part you seem to be having trouble with.
Here's a question for you. Is it illegal for an 18 year-old to buy beer. Yes it is? Then another question, is it illegal for an 18 year-old to drink beer? No it's not.
Point being, something that appears illegal is really not. That's what we have here with this Comey meeting bs.
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