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re: Colonial Pipeline Ransom In The $100’s of billions.

Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47141 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 8:58 pm to
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They don't have people trained to open and close valves? Is that how fricking stupid this country has become?


It’s not that simple. Besides, I am sure that they can’t flow that pipeline without being able to monitor and run leak detection.

Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4422 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:00 pm to
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I just saw a news report that China's economy is soaring like ours was before the china virus.


Link?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:00 pm to
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I’m ready for the Lord to pull the plug on this whole Earth thing.



You and me both brother. Can't come soon enough.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30860 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:02 pm to
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It’s not that simple. Besides, I am sure that they can’t flow that pipeline without being able to monitor and run leak detection.

fricking pipelines have been around since long before computers controlled everything, and I'm pretty sure that Colonial pipeline has been around a pretty good while.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21756 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:02 pm to
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Find out who did this and drone the frick out of them on live TV

Not this administration. Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but it’s our government’s official position that this country consumes too much of everything, and oil tops the list. A disruption like this is quietly cheered on the Left.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53597 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:03 pm to
Time to revert back to analog technology to control our vital infrastructure. Hard connections!
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:03 pm to
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$100’s of billions of dollars


Not a chance it’s that much.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
18292 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:04 pm to
Briefed is a big word. More like he was told "We Got This go back to sleep"
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
2052 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:16 pm to
Your probably right about that!
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:22 pm to
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If it can't be operated somewhat manually, heads need to roll.


That was my first thought with the Boeing 737 Max. The computers are flying the plane right into the ground loaded with people and they can't shut those damn computers completely off and have an easy way to fly it manually? I mean WTF and what kind of idiot engineers are designing these things today.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21944 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:23 pm to
i would be shocked if there was not analog control systems
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30860 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:27 pm to
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i would be shocked if there was not analog control systems

I wish I could agree with you, but I won't be shocked if there isn't. This world has become that stupid.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8866 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:30 pm to
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i would be shocked if there was not analog control systems

I think the bigger problem is the accounting side. Dozens, if not scores of companies put gasoline into the pipeline in blocks, and take it out at the other end. This would be a massive headache if they didn’t know if 89 or 93 octane was coming out at the other end and who owned it. At least that’s my understanding.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:32 pm to
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Biden being briefed today is a major escalation that unknown to us the pipeline may be down for a month or two




This guy? Explain it to him like he's 5.

Posted by timdallinger
Member since Nov 2009
1593 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:44 pm to
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It's a fricking pipeline, shite runs through it. If it can't be operated somewhat manually, heads need to roll.

All pipelines are run remotely by a control center. Someone is watching a computer screen 24 hours a day, monitoring pressures and flows. There's also a mass balance leak detection software running at all times to ensure pipeline integrity.

Colonial runs crude and refined product. This means valves must be swung to start and deliver different batches. Scrapers, pigs, need to be launched to separate some fluids.

The average person doesn't understand the complexity of these systems.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30860 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:50 pm to
Colonial pipeline was up and running before computers. They went to computer controls to eliminate employees. This is how you frick up.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52344 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:52 pm to
Don't know if you've been paying attention, but the military has told this fricking fraud administration to frick off.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
2052 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 9:56 pm to
I’d imagine the computers allowed the pipeline to become more complex possibly allow a higher volume usage with the automation.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30860 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:01 pm to
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I’d imagine the computers allowed the pipeline to become more complex possibly allow a higher volume usage with the automation.

I'm sure that was the goal, and it probably worked until now, except now you don't have the personnel in the field that really understand how the system operates at local junctions in a way that they can keep it functioning at decreased volume. It's shut down completely.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
10805 posts
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:04 pm to
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Not a chance it’s that much.

The price tag screams Iran or North Korea.
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