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re: Colonial Pipeline Ransom In The $100’s of billions.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:04 pm to cajunangelle
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:04 pm to cajunangelle
Busy trying to find bear spray killers.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:05 pm to Catchfalaya
I hope people realize these pipelines can be operated manually, right?
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:06 pm to Catchfalaya
How’s that working out for us?
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:07 pm to GumboPot
Sure but they did it to save millions on labor. They could probably run them manually but it’s going to take a month or two of training to make it functional
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:10 pm to Catchfalaya
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Sure but they did it to save millions on labor. They could probably run them manually but it’s going to take a month or two of training to make it functional
There happen to be a lot of guys out of work right now, who know a bit about pipelines, and this may be a good lesson about why we need another pipeline.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:12 pm to ninthward
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i would be shocked if there was not analog control systems
I know for a fact there these pipelines can be operated manually. IDK what this hack entails but it’s not like this pipeline system is that complex. And when I say operate manually I mean an operator going into the field and flipping a switch on a valve actuator as opposed to controlling the system by SCADA in Colonial Pipeline control room in Alpharetta Georgia.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:15 pm to GumboPot
I’m sure the fbi is on it just after they serve another fisa/fara warrant on rudi
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:16 pm to Catchfalaya
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Sure but they did it to save millions on labor. They could probably run them manually but it’s going to take a month or two of training to make it functional
All hands are on deck to fix this problem. People that serve other functions for the company will be moved to assist with operations until the problem is fixed.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:18 pm to GumboPot
The issue will be will the government allow them to flow in that manner. On top of that the company will likely have protocols in place that have to be followed like we ain’t flowing the pipeline without scada monitoring. A company this large isn’t gonna risk having a huge PR blunder on top of this very large issue. More than likely the PLC’s and flow computers used aren’t affected by this attack, but all of the communications infrastructure and servers running the scada softwares are all
Out of commission.
With the right people and all hands on deck no doubt they could get a working system in place within a week or two. Of course you go back to protocol and standards and moc’s.
Out of commission.
With the right people and all hands on deck no doubt they could get a working system in place within a week or two. Of course you go back to protocol and standards and moc’s.
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:27 pm to Catchfalaya
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I’d imagine the computers allowed the pipeline to become more complex possibly allow a higher volume usage with the automation.
The “automation” allows the pipeline operator to monitor and control the valves remotely. Colonial sends different products down the line like gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, etc. The valves open and close based on an inline gravity measurement so the gasoline goes into the gasoline tanks, diesel in the diesel tanks, etc. There is some mixing that takes place and that product gets stored in the transmix tanks. The transmix gets blended in with the diesel as long as the diesel still meets spec.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:29 pm to diat150
Unless the Hackers still have access to some critical parts of the pipeline, and can cause physical damage.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:31 pm to GumboPot
You work in automation or operations? Lmao
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:31 pm to diat150
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The issue will be will the government allow them to flow in that manner.
You are right. Compliance is an issue. They will likely have to get an emergency waiver from PHMSA to continue operating while this hack is resolved.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:32 pm to auggie
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There happen to be a lot of guys out of work right now, who know a bit about pipelines, and this may be a good lesson about why we need another pipeline
That makes entirely too much sense so it won't happen.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 10:34 pm to diat150
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You work in automation or operations?
I’m a pipeline engineer. I’m a little familiar with the Colonial system. I’m in consulting now.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 11:01 pm to GumboPot
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I’m a pipeline engineer. I’m a little familiar with the Colonial system. I’m in consulting now.
Posted on 5/8/21 at 11:07 pm to Catchfalaya
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Sure but they did it to save millions on labor. They could probably run them manually but it’s going to take a month or two of training to make it functional
My 73 year old ex pipeliner dad about to make bank
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 5/8/21 at 11:09 pm to Catchfalaya
But Andrew Yang told me that we need UBI because automation will replace all of us. How many people can be employed to turn valves and back up technology for $100’s of billions?
This post was edited on 5/8/21 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 5/8/21 at 11:10 pm to auggie
The US blew up a Russian pipeline in the 1980’s by putting in a software bug. Don’t doubt Russia would do this since Biden went after Putin.
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