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Coleman Hughes on Rogan debating whether what Israelis are doing is genocide

Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:39 pm
Rogan seems to lean on the side tha Israel is bordering on Genocide. Hughes making some very good points. I don’t have Instagram and had never heard of Hughes, but he does a good job of laying out the reality,

It’s worth a listen, even for just 5 minutes:

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Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:47 am to
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what Israelis are doing is genocide



Could be. Even so, it could be justified too.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:50 am to
Who cares, they cant coexist. One if them has to go.
Posted by stelly1025
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:42 am to
I mean I get it, when Isreal got attacked in the manner it did than they basically needed to act militarily with extreme prejudice. I wouldn't call it a genocide, but rather military action with some oversteps.

Posted by wryder1
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 4:40 am to
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I wouldn't call it a genocide, but rather military action with some oversteps.
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It’s war and war is ugly. How can you say Israel has made oversteps when they’re fighting an enemy that would show zero restraint if they had the weapons and training to defeat Israel. There are no rules in war other than survival. Do you think Americans would fight by the “rules” if we thought the attacking force could wipe out our entire existence, or wouldn’t hesitate to kill our wives and children?
Israel didn’t start this war. They are responding to the actions taken on Oct 7th. If the Palestinians don’t like what Israel is doing to them then maybe they shouldn’t have killed almost 2,000 Israelis for no reason. That’s probably a good start to not getting exterminated.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:43 am to
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Do you think Americans would fight by the “rules” if we thought the attacking force could wipe out our entire existence, or wouldn’t hesitate to kill our wives and children?

Absolutely not. But the United States likes to only impose the “rules” on everyone else while ignoring them ourselves.

We’ve bombed the living frick out of civilians, etc. in every major conflict we’ve participated in since 1941.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58566 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:09 am to
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They are responding to the actions taken on Oct 7th.


This conflict didn’t begin on October 7th. That’s such a myopic viewpoint.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:20 am to
A myopic but necessary point of view for those supporting Israel’s genocide.
Posted by Deuces
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:30 am to
The statistics that people usually quote from this claim of “genocide” are coming from Hamas.

They claim Hamas fighters are civilians in many of their own numbers.

They lie and mischaracterize stats because they know their only chance of beating Israel is via a PR war.

Savage terrorists cannot be rewarded for setting up headquarters in hospitals and hiding amongst civilians (war crimes). If Israel shows them their tactics will work, they’ll always be used by terrorists.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10864 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:31 am to
What we are supposed to learn from the Holocaust is ‘Genocide Bad’.

The Jews learned a different lesson, ‘Don’t get Genocided’

These are not the same lessons. This why ‘genociding the Palestinians’ is viewed by some as bad, but it’s viewed by the Jews as necessary.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:34 am to
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This conflict didn’t begin on October 7th. That’s such a myopic viewpoint.


If you truly believe that, then do you view the October 7th terrorist attacks as justified?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:35 am to
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These are not the same lessons. This why ‘genociding the Palestinians’ is viewed by some as bad, but it’s viewed by the Jews as necessary.


Is Israel rounding up Gazans and Palestinians and sending them to places like Dachau, Auschwitz, Sobibor, and Treblinka? You know, actual genocide.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:35 am to
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Israel’s genocide.


Do you actually believe that this is occurring?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:41 am to

We recognize that some homicides are excusable. That's a legal fact.


Genocide is a larger scale homicide.


What the Nazis did could not be excused. The jews had no aggression. They weren't attacking anyone.


Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10270 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:49 am to
Genocide of what race? Terrorist are not a race and neither are Palestinians. Nobody is considering extermination of the whole population of Gaza but rather rooting out terrorist organization activities and capabilities. My question is why hasn’t the American government start rooting out terrorist here ?
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:50 am to
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Is Israel rounding up Gazans and Palestinians and sending them to places like Dachau, Auschwitz, Sobibor, and Treblinka? You know, actual genocide.


Why do they need camps? They’re in a war, you just shoot them.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24969 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:52 am to
Who cares? It’s not like this is unprovoked. Israel tried the peaceful coexist thing with them and Hamas committed the ultimate FAFO.

Israelis will never be safe as long as Hamas or Hamas supporters exist.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3753 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:53 am to
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They lie and mischaracterize stats because they know their only chance of beating Israel is via a PR war.


What's amazing is the idiots who buy into it after they've observed Hamas doing exactly what you said for decades.

I agree with a few posters upthread.

The two cannot co-exist.

Call it a "genocide" if that helps with your virtue signaling, but the practical reality of the situation is that one of them has to go.

One of the two has agreed to 6-8 two state solutions over the past 70 or so years. The other one has rejected all of them, regardless of who was proposing the solution or what the solution was.

Therefore, only one of them is responsible for them not being able to co-exist.

I'm fine with that one being the one that has to go.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 6:55 am
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:00 am to
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Could be. Even so, it could be justified too.


genocide could be justified? go ahead and enlighten us… tell us how the holocaust or Rwanda was appropriate
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20399 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:21 am to
there are no innocent civilians in gaza
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