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Codifying socialism in NYC

Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:09 pm
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:09 pm
NYC lawmakers consider making Mamdani's city-owned grocery stores permanent

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New York City Councilmember Jennifer Gutiérrez and some of her colleagues are pushing a proposal to require the establishment of at least five municipal grocery stores per borough.

The proposal calls for the commissioner of small business services or the leader of a different agency designated by the mayor to create at least five grocery stores per borough "in consultation or partnership to the extent feasible with a contracted entity," according to the measure.

A press release pertaining to the mayor's effort earlier this year noted, "The city-owned grocery initiative is designed to lower costs on everyday staples by using public ownership to eliminate costs that are currently passed on to consumers."



I can't wait to see how these stores do in the free market.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:11 pm to
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I can't wait to see how these stores do in the free market.



As long as their losses are covered by the taxpayers, they can sustain indefinitely.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111208 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:12 pm to
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As long as their losses are covered by the taxpayers, they can sustain indefinitely.


Or until you run out of taxpayer money.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16825 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:14 pm to
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As long as their losses are covered by the taxpayers, they can sustain indefinitely.


With ZERO Federal bail out funding.
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
543 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Or until you run out of taxpayer money.
"The eternal problem of the communists: they've run out of other people's money to live on."
Margaret Thatcher, a British stateswoman who served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 and Leader of the Conservative Party from 1975 to 1990.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35900 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:21 pm to
Grocery store profit margins are razor thin, especially on the "staples" this initiative plans to concentrate on.

Just how much savings do they anticipate passing on?
Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:31 pm to
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Just how much savings do they anticipate passing on?



Yep, they're operating under the assumption that these mean old privately owned grocery stores are ripping people off when they're really not.

They'll find out how expensive it is to run, operate and make a profit from very thin margins.

The people will see they're not saving anything and with the "great customer experience" they'll be getting from gubmin run stores, they'll probably start complaining about it but of course, they'll still vote socialism in.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111208 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:32 pm to
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Yep, they're operating under the assumption that these mean old privately owned grocery stores are ripping people off when they're really not.

They'll find out how expensive it is to run, operate and make a profit from very thin margins.



Will all the workers in these places be deemed city employees, with things like Civil Service protection and all?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35900 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:37 pm to
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Will all the workers in these places be deemed city employees, with things like Civil Service protection and all?



In the OP, they mention working with "contractors" so these will probably be actually ran by real grocery store companies.

The prices won't be any better, but when they inevitably lose money, they will just stay open to avoid the dreaded food deserts.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 2:41 pm
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9830 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:38 pm to
Free market? They will prop them up at tax payer expense no matter the cost
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
38240 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:38 pm to
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when they inevitably lose money


They'll blame Trump and whitey for something
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31861 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:39 pm to
NY state will keep bailing him out.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19738 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:39 pm to
They are fricked
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19705 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:55 pm to
The extra protein coming from the pestilences ought to insure healthy meals
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3891 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 3:16 pm to
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press release pertaining to the mayor's effort earlier this year noted, "The city-owned grocery initiative is designed to lower costs on everyday staples by using public ownership to eliminate costs that are currently passed on to consumers."


Which costs will be eliminated? Or is government paying those costs? And if government is paying the costs, are not the public still paying them?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16568 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 3:19 pm to
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pushing a proposal to require the establishment of at least five municipal grocery stores per borough.

Typical. The first store won't open for another year, and this proposal. Morons.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
38240 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 4:18 pm to
Gotta codify it just in case a mean wepubwican gets in office and 86's that shite.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123462 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 4:27 pm to
The Twitter fight videos from these stores will be gold
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
4075 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 4:37 pm to
Everybody in NY City that needs groceries should just use their tax payer funded EBT/Snap cards.

I think these city owned "grocery stores" are just gonna be a big tax grift on the working folks of NY City.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36271 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 4:40 pm to
If they are so great why is it necessary to mandate them into law?
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