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re: CNN says LA. is losing coastline due to global warming
Posted on 2/11/19 at 7:30 pm to Rohan Gravy
Posted on 2/11/19 at 7:30 pm to Rohan Gravy
Salwater infiltration due to excessive canals for O&G play a big role too.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 7:34 pm to TBoy
quote:
Wrong!
NOAA Data Map
Note that the data map is a combination of sea level rise and land subsidence. However, what you can clearly see from the map is that levels are rising everywhere, regardless of land drop.
Nope nope nope!
The water level on the CONCRETE at Hebert's landing hasn't changed in 25 years.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 7:48 pm to loogaroo
quote:
Nope nope nope!
You can go argue with they guys who use satellites and buoys.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 8:35 pm to TBoy
The ocean levels could drop and you would say it’s because of global warming, or anything opposite of whom you oppose.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 8:54 pm to loogaroo
quote:Subsidence is obviously a huge issue and several times greater than eustatic sea level rise, but the sea is rising. Albeit very very slowly.
we assume that the problem is sea levels rising when the issue is really due to subsiding land due to a lack of natural replenishment,
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 8:55 pm to Rohan Gravy
Good. Maybe their falling into the ocean is imminent.
Oh this is Louisiana? I thought it was Los Angeles. Lulz.
Oh this is Louisiana? I thought it was Los Angeles. Lulz.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:16 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
Here I was trying to think of a clever way to work a West L.A. Fadeaway reference into a post and then it struck me that the LA stood for Louisiana. This is at least the second time I have mistaken one for the other on this board. Someone really needs to change their abbreviation.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:17 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
A bit of history is useful in explaining the loss
In 1905 Lafourche bayou was dammed at Donaldsonville. This very large waterway used to carry 13% of the Miss river flow to the gulf. Within 5 years saltwater intrusion was well north of Raceland shutting down several sugar mills. Ask your grandfathers if they remember the large oaks on the bayous down to the gulf. I remember the ones south of Leeville in the 1950's. Corp of Engineers realize the problem. Built a diversion in St Charles P 20 years ago and have studied other diversion paths. Far to much development required.
Second event. In the 1940-50 's the corp worked hard through the Miss. river basin to control flood waters, impoundment damming and erosion control. Their success can be understood by reviewing the Atchafalaya point Miss river quality monitoring data for that period. the suspended solid content drops by 60% during that period never to return.
Data is available on line
In 1905 Lafourche bayou was dammed at Donaldsonville. This very large waterway used to carry 13% of the Miss river flow to the gulf. Within 5 years saltwater intrusion was well north of Raceland shutting down several sugar mills. Ask your grandfathers if they remember the large oaks on the bayous down to the gulf. I remember the ones south of Leeville in the 1950's. Corp of Engineers realize the problem. Built a diversion in St Charles P 20 years ago and have studied other diversion paths. Far to much development required.
Second event. In the 1940-50 's the corp worked hard through the Miss. river basin to control flood waters, impoundment damming and erosion control. Their success can be understood by reviewing the Atchafalaya point Miss river quality monitoring data for that period. the suspended solid content drops by 60% during that period never to return.
Data is available on line
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:18 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
100 percent levees
This
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:45 pm to Icansee4miles
levees - yes. To the extent they've kept the Mississippi from changing its course. It would have changed course about 199 0 150 years ago. Almost all of the sinking is west of its mouth to Morgan City. Had the river diverted itself naturally, we wouldn't be talking about this. New Orleans might not be around either.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:09 pm to HighAnkleSprain
The MS river was/would be very close (in geologic timescale) to switching to the Atchafalaya. Think maybe 100 years or so.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:12 pm to MrLSU
quote:You mean Louisiana is floating? Bouyed by the lighter than water oil and gas?
Nope not global warming its because the oil & gas companies extracted oil/gas from the subsurface and the land sunk in many areas because of the extracted oil/gas.
C'mon now Senator Hank Johnson, Louisiana ain't gonna flip over like Guam.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:20 pm to Bard
quote:I thought it was because of white privilege
Or something like that
Posted on 2/11/19 at 11:56 pm to GumboPot
Why is baton rouge in Mississippi on that map?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:32 am to Rohan Gravy
They probably meant L.A and not LA. Reading articles on CNN can be tricky.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:33 am to Rohan Gravy
nm
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 12:34 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:03 am to Rohan Gravy
quote:
Can somebody educate me on why we are losing coastline.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:37 am to IllegalPete
quote:
Global warming was not one of the scientific reasons given for beach erosion. Apparently scientists and scholars were unaware of the effects that global warming had on coastline until the federal government started dishing out millions of dollars in grants for people to study it.
Most grants from UN,World Aid, IDB, World Bank, must have a "component" of global warming. Meaning, its a proven fact, if you admit it, we might give you money. Some of the projects and their twisting to include global warming are hilarious. We are building statues in the reef off Tobago because global warming has caused the reef to bleach and it is hurting tourism, and we need something else for the tourists to see.
It has nothing to do with the fact that the tour operators park on the reef and supply booties for the tourists to walk all over the thing til its dead.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:53 am to Captain Crackysack
quote:
Why is baton rouge in Mississippi on that map?
Because it's showing the fault lines in southern Louisiana.
ETA: "Baton Rouge" is the name of that fault line.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 8:55 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 9:00 am to Rohan Gravy
quote:
I thought it was a combination of erosion and man made levies.
Yep.
Levies prevent flooding, that prevents freshwater and sediment from refreshing and rebuilding marsh.
Cut canals help speed up saltwater intrusion and erosion.
Finally anti fur libtards caused the collapse of the nutria fur trade, and the overpopulating evasive species eat marsh plants to the mud increasing erosion.
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