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re: CNN, MSNow, Politico reporters were denied access to the White House despite judge’s order
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:21 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:21 pm to wackatimesthree
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Who issues the press pass? The state? The White House itself?
Is this something different than the "press credentials" that reporters get from whoever they work for? Because those are just something the news outlet prints out and gives to their reporters.
I'm sure the White House does background checks on potential reporters allowed in the press briefings and they have to apply and there's a (hopefully) extensive vetting that happens, but does clearance of that process make it something like a license?
What "due process" does someone need to have in order to have their classified security clearance revoked? Is it more or less rigorous (or the same) than whatever this judge is saying?
If the same or less, then this little piggy squeals B.S. all the way home.
yeah, I am not sure of the details but there is an application process a member of the press has to go through to get a "press pass" or whatever to go on White House grounds. I am sure this involves, at a minimum, a security clearance and a heck to see if the person has actually written on political/White House affairs, etc.
I view it more like a medical or legal license. There is no right to it. But the requirements to get one are spelled out and as long as you meet them you get the license. And once you have it, the government (or a board/or empowered by the government) cannot arbitrarily pull your license - there has to be a reason and the license holder has the ability to respond.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:21 pm to Trevaylin
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Folks need to check the time stamps of the judges order, the rabble showing up to demand entrance and the communication to the actual guards manning the post.
manufactured crisis, indicative of the reason they got kicked out.
Good point. Judge Kelly's order was issued just after one in the morning. Which one of the rabble was there before then?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:23 pm to Boodis Man
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Just keep that same energy when the dems come back into power.
I, for one, absolutely will.
When a judge makes a bullshite, activist ruling against a Democrat for obvious political reasons that is devoid of legal merit, I will have the same attitude towards a decision to ignore it that I do in this case.
Of course, that only ever goes one way, so that would never happen.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:29 pm to JimEverett
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yeah, I am not sure of the details but there is an application process a member of the press has to go through to get a "press pass" or whatever to go on White House grounds.
Sure. Basically a security clearance for a specific area.
But so does the WH chef or the guy who parks the presidential limousines.
You're telling me that they have to have "due process" to be fired and lose their WH pass to get into the kitchen and motor pool?
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:30 pm to FLTech
I hope Trump grants them access to an oversized White House broom closet only. That would satisfy the judge's order.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:39 pm to wackatimesthree
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Sure. Basically a security clearance for a specific area.
But so does the WH chef or the guy who parks the presidential limousines.
You're telling me that they have to have "due process" to be fired and lose their WH pass to get into the kitchen and motor pool?
I am not sure I understand what you are getting at.
I don't know the specifics of how the WH Chef is hired and fired and what that entails.
But, there is a clear boundary within the White House itself. As I mentioned above - a President can allow a Newsmax reporter into the private bedroom for an interview and say "Politico is not allowed because I do nto like their reporting." There is clearly nothing wrong with that. Where it seems likely, but less clear than a bedroom, is who the President allows in the Oval Office, or on AF1 . . .
But, in the White House Press Briefing Room - a place designated for press functions unlike a bedroom or an office - the standards are different. The White House can withdraw a press pass, but they must give a reason, and that reason must comply with Constitutional standards. Jim from Politico has been doing cocaine in the WH bathroom - grounds for removing the press privilege. Ban Gretchen from CNN because the President didn't like her column that criticized him?- most likely impermissible because a President most likely cannot ban a reporter from the press briefing room for no other reason apart from not liking her viewpoint.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 2:41 pm to BBONDS25
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They absolutely have. How do you not know this. There was a judge that got absolutely destroyed for interfering. Hank.
You have really hit rock bottom.
Of course, I know about Judge Dugan. Below was the thread I started in December celebrating the fact that she would probably be convicted.
That is different than the issue we were discussing. [I started to explain, but I realize facts don't matter to you at this point.]
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:05 pm to IvoryBillMatt
NBC and ABC showed prior to shift change at 6 am
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:08 pm to Trevaylin
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NBC and ABC showed prior to shift change at 6 am
Thanks. So, 5 hours is not much time. I wonder how and when the White House learned of the order.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Looks like they are back to having access
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:15 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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You have really hit rock bottom. Of course, I know about Judge Dugan. Below was the thread I started in December celebrating the fact that she would probably be convicted.
Then why did you ask why the government wasn’t prosecuting people that aid illegals evade capture?
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That is different than the issue we were discussing. [I started to explain, but I realize facts don't matter to you at this point.]
Prosecuting people that help evade capture? It’s the exact same.
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You have really hit rock bottom.
You have. Your fourth alter appears to be approaching early onset dementia. Take care of yourself Hank.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:32 pm to medium_okra
There is no right of action by the plaintiffs and there is no jurisdiction over any cause of action, if it existed.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 3:50 pm to BBONDS25
Potus quote “after their constant reporting of fake news”, look it up on YouTube, he said nothing about national security reporting
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:00 pm to BBONDS25
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Then why did you ask why the government wasn’t prosecuting people that aid illegals evade capture?
Probably a waste of time to respond to you, but I will extend the courtesy....
An INDIVIDUAL (acting outside her official capacity...hence, no judicial immunity) obstructing an ARREST is completely different from a sanctuary jurisdiction holding captives past their release date to honor a federal immigration detainer.
The detainer is a REQUEST. Jurisdictions may honor it or not at their discretion. They might be doo doo heads for not honoring the request, but that's the law.
It's one thing for people who don't understand how the law works to get upset about what they UNDERSTANDABLY see as unjust results...but you and I didn't go to "justice school," we went to "law school." We are trained to separate passion from analysis.
It would be nice to see you show that on this Board. I'm sure you're more knowledgeable than anybody here on MANY legal issues based on your experience.
I used to expect better from you. Now I don't. Now, you're just a contrarian prick, who isn't interested in a logical discussion.
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:02 pm to COAUTiger
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Looks like they are back to having access
Throw their commie asses out.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 4:34 pm to FLTech
Looks like it was an official backroom briefing given by the Vance himself. Embarrassing.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:25 pm to loogaroo
Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:37 pm to loogaroo
Give them press passes. Allow them into the White House, in an out of the way room. Have them sit there while the PC goes on in the usual place, making it clear that they can leave at any time.
Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:49 pm to wackatimesthree
The “activist” judge in this case was a Trump appointee…
Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:50 pm to loogaroo
tuff shite
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