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re: City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:16 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:16 pm to WeeWee
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Good if it leads to a school district.
Just curious, if you lived in the Woodland area what changes with a separate school system? Is it you just don’t want your student population diluted from attending magnet schools? Is there some belief that the current school system appoints incompetent principals? I’m just interested in why this is seen as a magic pill to fix the area.
And I don’t doubt scores will go up because you will pull students out of magnet schools back to their home school, but I would imagine those parents prefer their kids going to magnet schools. So who does this help?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:35 pm to TigerFan244
Baton Rouge is shite even when stealing from St George. Now the idiots there will really see what tragic consequences come from those elected "leaders"
Hint: think New Orleans
Hint: think New Orleans
Posted on 6/23/24 at 3:41 am to TigerFan244
The only good thing about City of SG would be creating its own school district. Other than that, this city is going to be one large cluster frick and double layer of excessive government and an unorganized City Hall to contend with.
Why are the organizers of City of SG saying they plan to copy City of Central's Planning and Zoning Guidelines? City of Baton Rouge has a far better Unified Development Code than City of Central Development Code, which many provisions seem to violate basic constitutional and basic property rights.
During these City of SG Meetings, Chris Rials shows everyone his plan of proposed government for City of SG, and new ordinances all contained in this binder, yet he refuses to show anyone what is in this binder, other than we plan to copy the City of Central when it comes to Planning and Zoning.
Sorry but my commercial property is already zoned in accordance with the Baton Rouge Unified Development Code, and I do not need my zoning changed to fit within the definition of City of Central Zoning or Development Code, which is uncomplete and not nearly as well written as City of Baton Rouge and the Future BR Plan, which is a far better plan, and development code.
I don't see why City of SG just sticks with the current Baton Rouge UDC. I also fear City of SG will become a police state where any slight zoning infraction is going to be justification for some neighborhood busy body or inspector telling you what you can or cannot do with your own property, using the strong arm of government to prevent property owners and developers from developing their property, especially in commercial areas.
City of SG is already being controlled by the Federation of Greater Baton Rouge Civic Associations and these over bossy H.O.A. types that like to dictate to everyone in a two mile radius what they can or cannot do with their own property.
Anyway I have concerns as to why City of SG needs to copy City of Central Planning and Zoning and not just stick with the already well established and far better written Baton Rouge Unified Development Code and Future BR Plan already in place.
I expect property taxes will probably be raised and being able to obtain a simple building permit to renovate your property, build a fence or shed, or build your dream house on your own property, or rezone property will become a nightmare of government hurdles and busy bodies and overzealous building inspectors preventing every step of your future development unfeasible and unobtainable.
Why are the organizers of City of SG saying they plan to copy City of Central's Planning and Zoning Guidelines? City of Baton Rouge has a far better Unified Development Code than City of Central Development Code, which many provisions seem to violate basic constitutional and basic property rights.
During these City of SG Meetings, Chris Rials shows everyone his plan of proposed government for City of SG, and new ordinances all contained in this binder, yet he refuses to show anyone what is in this binder, other than we plan to copy the City of Central when it comes to Planning and Zoning.
Sorry but my commercial property is already zoned in accordance with the Baton Rouge Unified Development Code, and I do not need my zoning changed to fit within the definition of City of Central Zoning or Development Code, which is uncomplete and not nearly as well written as City of Baton Rouge and the Future BR Plan, which is a far better plan, and development code.
I don't see why City of SG just sticks with the current Baton Rouge UDC. I also fear City of SG will become a police state where any slight zoning infraction is going to be justification for some neighborhood busy body or inspector telling you what you can or cannot do with your own property, using the strong arm of government to prevent property owners and developers from developing their property, especially in commercial areas.
City of SG is already being controlled by the Federation of Greater Baton Rouge Civic Associations and these over bossy H.O.A. types that like to dictate to everyone in a two mile radius what they can or cannot do with their own property.
Anyway I have concerns as to why City of SG needs to copy City of Central Planning and Zoning and not just stick with the already well established and far better written Baton Rouge Unified Development Code and Future BR Plan already in place.
I expect property taxes will probably be raised and being able to obtain a simple building permit to renovate your property, build a fence or shed, or build your dream house on your own property, or rezone property will become a nightmare of government hurdles and busy bodies and overzealous building inspectors preventing every step of your future development unfeasible and unobtainable.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 3:59 am
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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BR becoming a more amplified shithole than it is, removing economy and opportunity that funds the outer-lying areas like STG.
Can STG hire or does it currently have its own police force?
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:29 am to TigerFan244
Good. It may stem some of the White Flight to Livingston and Ascension Parishes. The new school district needs to happen sooner, rather than later, though.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:36 am to TigerFan244
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City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?
Instead of guessing , Let's let this laboratory experiment play out.
Then we will have an answer and can learn from it.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:42 am to TigerFan244
I believe it’s going to be a sink or swim moment for BR. They are going to lose revenue and now must govern appropriately. A good group of leaders can do it and it will actually help the city government shape up. But if the leaders don’t do it, it will sink.
The biggest need is to eliminate the consolidated for of city-parish government. The mayor of BR shouldn’t be the parish president. We need a parish president and council at large to vote for the good of the whole parish, not just one part of North Baton Rouge.
The biggest need is to eliminate the consolidated for of city-parish government. The mayor of BR shouldn’t be the parish president. We need a parish president and council at large to vote for the good of the whole parish, not just one part of North Baton Rouge.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:00 am to TigerFan244
From the school standpoint a plus. If St. George can limit the construction of multi family (apartment) construction.....a big plus
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:01 am to KiwiHead
It should be a positive. At this time I think BR may be worse off than New Orleans despite Latoya. The NOPD is in better shape than BR police and even the woke DA is starting to prosecute people plus Troop NOLA is making a difference. The City Council despite being a bunch of libs is pushing back on Latoya . Hopefully BR can get a new Mayor President
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:04 am to TigerFan244
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City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?
If the people in the new town tolerate the taxes required to build out quality new infrastructure, it could be a good thing for the city as a whole. The key is tolerating the higher taxes required.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:13 am to TigerFan244
The taxes should come from the people living there.
Not hard to figure out.
Not hard to figure out.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:17 am to Capitalist
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Anyway I have concerns as to why City of SG needs to copy City of Central Planning and Zoning and not just stick with the already well established and far better written Baton Rouge Unified Development Code and Future BR Plan already in place.
It’s good to see people speaking up about legitimate concerns.
Let’s see how things develop and I hope we can count on you to alert us to problems, right?
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:21 am to TBoy
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If the people in the new town tolerate the taxes required to build out quality new infrastructure, it could be a good thing for the city as a whole. The key is tolerating the higher taxes required.
We have tolerated higher taxes and are currently financing the construction of new highway projects, new roads, sidewalks, libraries, parks, fire stations, schools, and sewer stations.
We are paying taxes for all those infrastructure right now.
Btw, none of these infrastructure improvements are SG obligations. They are obligations of the parish, the school system or the fire district we live in.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:30 am to Capitalist
You sound like those women that were freaking out because their kids were going to be kicked out of the EBRPS magnet schools the day after the vote. Since none of that happened y’all have moved on to other made up concerns.
Just because StG models something after Central doesn’t mean that we have to do everything exactly like they do. On top of that you are defending the Baton Rouge UDC which is absolute garbage.
Just because StG models something after Central doesn’t mean that we have to do everything exactly like they do. On top of that you are defending the Baton Rouge UDC which is absolute garbage.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:59 am to BigBinBR
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Just because StG models something after Central doesn’t mean that we have to do everything exactly like they do. On top of that you are defending the Baton Rouge UDC which is absolute garbage.
You are right about the UDC.
But the guy outlined some legitimate concerns. Having interested folks watching will improve the final results. It’s a good thing to have legitimate critics.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:01 am to TigerFan244
Bad in the short term, but could be great in the long term IF done well. I have zero confidence that this will be the case.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:12 am to kingbob
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Bad in the short term, but could be great in the long term IF done well. I have zero confidence that this will be the case.
Then get involved.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:14 am to doubleb
I don’t live in St. George. I live in the city limits, am I am involved somewhat.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:16 am to kingbob
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I don’t live in St. George. I live in the city limits, am I am involved somewhat.
That’s unfortunate. You have a lot of good ideas.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:32 am to TigerFan244
Saving inner cities is like bringing democracy to Afghanistan. The people have to want what you give them.
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