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re: City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?

Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7927 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:16 pm to
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Good if it leads to a school district.

Just curious, if you lived in the Woodland area what changes with a separate school system? Is it you just don’t want your student population diluted from attending magnet schools? Is there some belief that the current school system appoints incompetent principals? I’m just interested in why this is seen as a magic pill to fix the area.

And I don’t doubt scores will go up because you will pull students out of magnet schools back to their home school, but I would imagine those parents prefer their kids going to magnet schools. So who does this help?
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4482 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:35 pm to
Baton Rouge is shite even when stealing from St George. Now the idiots there will really see what tragic consequences come from those elected "leaders"

Hint: think New Orleans
Posted by Capitalist
Member since May 2014
151 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 3:41 am to
The only good thing about City of SG would be creating its own school district. Other than that, this city is going to be one large cluster frick and double layer of excessive government and an unorganized City Hall to contend with.

Why are the organizers of City of SG saying they plan to copy City of Central's Planning and Zoning Guidelines? City of Baton Rouge has a far better Unified Development Code than City of Central Development Code, which many provisions seem to violate basic constitutional and basic property rights.

During these City of SG Meetings, Chris Rials shows everyone his plan of proposed government for City of SG, and new ordinances all contained in this binder, yet he refuses to show anyone what is in this binder, other than we plan to copy the City of Central when it comes to Planning and Zoning.

Sorry but my commercial property is already zoned in accordance with the Baton Rouge Unified Development Code, and I do not need my zoning changed to fit within the definition of City of Central Zoning or Development Code, which is uncomplete and not nearly as well written as City of Baton Rouge and the Future BR Plan, which is a far better plan, and development code.

I don't see why City of SG just sticks with the current Baton Rouge UDC. I also fear City of SG will become a police state where any slight zoning infraction is going to be justification for some neighborhood busy body or inspector telling you what you can or cannot do with your own property, using the strong arm of government to prevent property owners and developers from developing their property, especially in commercial areas.

City of SG is already being controlled by the Federation of Greater Baton Rouge Civic Associations and these over bossy H.O.A. types that like to dictate to everyone in a two mile radius what they can or cannot do with their own property.

Anyway I have concerns as to why City of SG needs to copy City of Central Planning and Zoning and not just stick with the already well established and far better written Baton Rouge Unified Development Code and Future BR Plan already in place.

I expect property taxes will probably be raised and being able to obtain a simple building permit to renovate your property, build a fence or shed, or build your dream house on your own property, or rezone property will become a nightmare of government hurdles and busy bodies and overzealous building inspectors preventing every step of your future development unfeasible and unobtainable.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 3:59 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:27 am to
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BR becoming a more amplified shithole than it is, removing economy and opportunity that funds the outer-lying areas like STG.


Can STG hire or does it currently have its own police force?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62663 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:29 am to
Good. It may stem some of the White Flight to Livingston and Ascension Parishes. The new school district needs to happen sooner, rather than later, though.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80042 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:36 am to
quote:

City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?



Instead of guessing , Let's let this laboratory experiment play out.

Then we will have an answer and can learn from it.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
10531 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:42 am to
I believe it’s going to be a sink or swim moment for BR. They are going to lose revenue and now must govern appropriately. A good group of leaders can do it and it will actually help the city government shape up. But if the leaders don’t do it, it will sink.

The biggest need is to eliminate the consolidated for of city-parish government. The mayor of BR shouldn’t be the parish president. We need a parish president and council at large to vote for the good of the whole parish, not just one part of North Baton Rouge.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35892 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:00 am to
From the school standpoint a plus. If St. George can limit the construction of multi family (apartment) construction.....a big plus
Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
784 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:01 am to
It should be a positive. At this time I think BR may be worse off than New Orleans despite Latoya. The NOPD is in better shape than BR police and even the woke DA is starting to prosecute people plus Troop NOLA is making a difference. The City Council despite being a bunch of libs is pushing back on Latoya . Hopefully BR can get a new Mayor President
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27529 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:04 am to
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City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?

If the people in the new town tolerate the taxes required to build out quality new infrastructure, it could be a good thing for the city as a whole. The key is tolerating the higher taxes required.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85871 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:13 am to
The taxes should come from the people living there.

Not hard to figure out.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41780 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:17 am to
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Anyway I have concerns as to why City of SG needs to copy City of Central Planning and Zoning and not just stick with the already well established and far better written Baton Rouge Unified Development Code and Future BR Plan already in place.


It’s good to see people speaking up about legitimate concerns.
Let’s see how things develop and I hope we can count on you to alert us to problems, right?

This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 10:23 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41780 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:21 am to
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If the people in the new town tolerate the taxes required to build out quality new infrastructure, it could be a good thing for the city as a whole. The key is tolerating the higher taxes required.


We have tolerated higher taxes and are currently financing the construction of new highway projects, new roads, sidewalks, libraries, parks, fire stations, schools, and sewer stations.

We are paying taxes for all those infrastructure right now.

Btw, none of these infrastructure improvements are SG obligations. They are obligations of the parish, the school system or the fire district we live in.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9271 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:30 am to
You sound like those women that were freaking out because their kids were going to be kicked out of the EBRPS magnet schools the day after the vote. Since none of that happened y’all have moved on to other made up concerns.

Just because StG models something after Central doesn’t mean that we have to do everything exactly like they do. On top of that you are defending the Baton Rouge UDC which is absolute garbage.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41780 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:59 am to
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Just because StG models something after Central doesn’t mean that we have to do everything exactly like they do. On top of that you are defending the Baton Rouge UDC which is absolute garbage.


You are right about the UDC.

But the guy outlined some legitimate concerns. Having interested folks watching will improve the final results. It’s a good thing to have legitimate critics.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69309 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:01 am to
Bad in the short term, but could be great in the long term IF done well. I have zero confidence that this will be the case.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41780 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:12 am to
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Bad in the short term, but could be great in the long term IF done well. I have zero confidence that this will be the case.


Then get involved.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69309 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:14 am to
I don’t live in St. George. I live in the city limits, am I am involved somewhat.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41780 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:16 am to
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I don’t live in St. George. I live in the city limits, am I am involved somewhat.


That’s unfortunate. You have a lot of good ideas.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19454 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 11:32 am to
Saving inner cities is like bringing democracy to Afghanistan. The people have to want what you give them.
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