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re: CIA secretly changed whistleblower rules same month complaint was filed

Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:09 pm to
Get Trump Part I
-Appoint a Special Counsel
-Get Special Counsel Robert Mueller and a team of democrat attack dogs to do a political hit job on President Trump.

Get Trump Part II
- Get the Intelligence Community to do a political hit job on President Donald Trump.

Get Trump Part III (Proposed in the event Part II fails)
- Do an actual violent hit job (as in assassination) on President Trump.

"We cannot accept a 2nd term for Donald Trump" - Nancy Pelosi
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 4:30 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:09 pm to
The irony about making it legal to use second hand hearsay to whistle blow makes whistleblowing have little to no impact going forward. Whistleblowers in the IC have been weakened.

I also kind of feel that the real motivation behind changing the whistleblower rule was more to weaken the effect of whistle blowers. The CIA does not want to be held accountable.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55480 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

This is a coup attempt orchestrated by the democrats using the intelligence community



I think you misunderstand who serves who here.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101444 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The irony about making it legal to use second hand hearsay to whistle blow makes whistleblowing have little to no impact going forward. Whistleblowers in the IC have been weakened.

I also kind of feel that the real motivation behind changing the whistleblower rule was more to weaken the effect of whistle blowers. The CIA does not want to be held accountable.




As if any of these filth care about unintended consequences.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:11 pm to
Hands caught in the cookie jar, cut em off.

Gut everyone involved or with direct knowledge of this.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79695 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:12 pm to
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The CIA does not want to be held accountable.


Which is exactly why it needs to be dismantled. ASAP.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27980 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:14 pm to
How could CIA rules, written by the CIA, be binding on anyone outside of that agency? They have power that overrides law, and legal precedent?
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10368 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:15 pm to
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Obama spent something like 50 million dollars prosecuting and silencing whistle blowers, sources, and journalists.

Yep. There were a few articles about the chilling effect this had on actual journalists, but nothing 99% of the population ever heard about. Meanwhile, his presidency is routinely hailed by the media as "transparent" and "scandal-free".

That's how you know journalism doesn't exist within the MSM complex. They scream "COVER UP!" at any attempts by a Republican of preventing leaks, but when a Democrat actively attacks whistleblowers, absolute crickets.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49354 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:15 pm to
This seems too neat to me.

I mean, the dates and such are simply too obvious and there is no way they could think that this would remain hidden.

It's incredibly brazen.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98850 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:15 pm to
fricking shutter the CIA.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146860 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:15 pm to
This can't be allowed to continue.
Posted by TBPland
League City, TX
Member since Sep 2009
1402 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:17 pm to
Holy hell!!! Wray should be in the oval office with his resignation and Trump should clean house. While at it, take the FBI and do the same.

Another insurance policy. Someone needs to visit the gallows. It's beyond ridiculous now
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10368 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:18 pm to
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I mean, the dates and such are simply too obvious and there is no way they could think that this would remain hidden.

On the other hand, why would they care if it was discovered? Who would actually report it? Certainly not a single outlet the average American would ever see.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7596 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:20 pm to
C O U P!
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:21 pm to
Don’t assume that it’s only Democrats who oppose Trump.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:22 pm to
The proof this was a setup is in the complaint itself.

1. A Whistleblower should only be presenting allegations. This complaint was a full blown investigation filled with interpretations, opinions, assumptions, and conclusions about what they deem was the intent behind the wrongdoing.

2. They used circular sourced "evidence" to try and support the allegations, as well as to try and formulate or map out a supposed fact pattern of Trump's behavior.

3. Adam Schiff clearly knew about this phone call in mid August, as he Tweeted about it and alleged Trump threatened to withhold aide from Zelensky if he didn't investigate Biden. Which was false and never happened.

4. The Whistleblower cited the NYT and Politico, who each claimed the same details, that there was a "promise of quid pro quo", "8 instances of Trump demanding Zelensky investigate Biden's son", and "Trump threatening to withhold military aide unless Zelensky did Trump's bidding". NONE OF WHICH ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

5. And here is the main proof this was a pre-planned coordinated conspiracy:

--- Adam Schiff, the NYT, Politico, AND the Whistleblower all got the exact same details wrong.


What are the odds that 4 sources of reporting of Trump allegations, that supposedly did not coordinate with each other beforehand, got the exact same precise details of the phone call wrong?


It's like a trillion to 1 odds. Meaning it's impossible.


Whomever concocted this thing is obviously the same person or group who fed the false narratives to Schiff and the media weeks ago.

And the fact the Whistleblower presented these falsehoods in the allegations, and then cited media articles that purported those identical falsehoods, is proof of circular-sourcing too. Meaning whomever created the complaint was also the source of the supposed "supporting evidence".


I'm baffled that more people on the Right aren't presenting it like this in their debates with the Left. It's indisputable proof of a pre-planned conspiracy and circular-sourcing.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5243 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27980 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:26 pm to
I don't see how The CIA rules mean a damn thing to anybody outside of The CIA. If they call a horse a cow, It's still going to be a horse to everyone else. The CIA doesn't make laws. Laws are what matter.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36059 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:28 pm to
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Laws are what matter.

Laws don't matter when the Republic is dead. Folks, this is proof that we are no different than those countries we're so scared of. A fricking banana republic.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50311 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:29 pm to
We are systematically allowing the Left to redefine everything in existence in order for them to garner complete control of our lives, while simultaneously destroying their domestic enemies.

So, hearsay is now a valid complaint against anyone they don't like.

Just another minor "convenience" for them as they continue to rewrite laws, history, and the rule of govt.

When these sick fricks garner power again, they are going to abuse their fellow Americans in ways unimaginable.

They will make what Obama did with the govt look like Child's Play.
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