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re: Church Politics - Yet another Presbyterian denomination…PCUSA to EPC to WCA
Posted on 10/27/26 at 10:54 am to captainFid
Posted on 10/27/26 at 10:54 am to captainFid
It's closer to 2 million in the US. These are the most well known:
• Presbyterian Church (USA) (PCUSA): 1,019,003 members (as of the 2025 annual church report, across 8,304 congregations)
• Presbyterian Church in America (PCA): 405,634 members (as of recent data/2025, across 1,959 congregations)
• Evangelical Presbyterian Church (EPC): Around 145,210 members (across roughly 625 churches)
• ECO: A Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians (ECO): Around 129,765 to 130,000 members (across about 320–400 churches)
• Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC): Around 31,472 members (across roughly 282 congregations)
• Presbyterian Church (USA) (PCUSA): 1,019,003 members (as of the 2025 annual church report, across 8,304 congregations)
• Presbyterian Church in America (PCA): 405,634 members (as of recent data/2025, across 1,959 congregations)
• Evangelical Presbyterian Church (EPC): Around 145,210 members (across roughly 625 churches)
• ECO: A Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians (ECO): Around 129,765 to 130,000 members (across about 320–400 churches)
• Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC): Around 31,472 members (across roughly 282 congregations)
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:05 am to bayoubengals88
People go to heaven if they believe the gospel. They don’t go to heaven if they don’t believe the gospel. See how simple that is? Doesn’t matter if it’s protestant, catholic or non denom or whatever else. The gospel saves souls. Religious names, titles and denominations do not. If some of you spent as much time sharing the gospel as you do bashing other’s faith we could fill heaven up.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:10 am to junkyarddawg3
What do you know about faith? You support a fake, gay preacher lol you are just wasting your time
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:18 am to Canon951
quote:That's fine, but there's a life on earth too.
People go to heaven if they believe the gospel. They don’t go to heaven if they don’t believe the gospel. See how simple that is? Doesn’t matter if it’s protestant, catholic or non denom or whatever else. The gospel saves souls.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:34 am to bayoubengals88
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the obvious result of sola scriptura
Perhaps, but certainly debatable and controversial. Not at all a debate topic that can be resolved on Political Talk because it is totally outside of the boundaries of what PT is and is not - PT is not a platform for theological debate.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:48 am to bayoubengals88
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Thinking Protestants go atheist or catholic.
i was a protestant my first 28 years of life then went catholic. i sure as shite was not going atheist.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:51 am to Fat Bastard
quote:I've been protestant for 37 years.......
i was a protestant my first 28 years of life then went catholic. i sure as shite was not going atheist.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:52 am to Champagne
quote:When did you turn a new leaf?
PT is not a platform for theological debate.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 11:52 am to burger bearcat
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my attendance at Church Services may start enthusiastically but would just dwindle because it’s really just a glorified TED talk without any substance behind it
Then you'd be going to the wrong Protestant church. Ours is NOTHING like that.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:06 pm to bayoubengals88
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The movement to start a new denomination was a response to the action taken by the EPC 46th General Assembly that opened the door to the ordination of celibate homosexuals.
"I love Jesus...No Homo"
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:11 pm to Canon951
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People go to heaven if they believe the gospel. They don’t go to heaven if they don’t believe the gospel. See how simple that is?
No one has more faith in the Gospel and the divine nature of Jesus Christ than Satan. Yet he is not in heaven
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:18 pm to burger bearcat
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No one has more faith in the Gospel and the divine nature of Jesus Christ than Satan. Yet he is not in heaven
Good grief man. Learn your bible.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:28 pm to bayoubengals88
Im a PCA member. The EPC is pretty good except for letting individual churches rule on egalitarianism.
I know the PCA has its problem children, but not sure we needed another Presbyterian denomination.
I know the PCA has its problem children, but not sure we needed another Presbyterian denomination.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:40 pm to anc
quote:It would stand to reason that the most conservative members of the EPC could have just moved to the PCA if they were unhappy.
I know the PCA has its problem children, but not sure we needed another Presbyterian denomination.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:47 pm to Canon951
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Good grief man. Learn your bible.
He’s correct.
Believing that Jesus is the son of God does not save you. Making him the Lord of your life does. Although the first thing listed is a necessary requirement, it is not sufficient on its own.
Satan fulfills the first requirement, but not the second one.
Thus the book of James.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:48 pm to bayoubengals88
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It would stand to reason that the most conservative members of the EPC could have just moved to the PCA if they were unhappy.
Yep. We have two EPC churches in our area. One has a female pastor and the other is more conservative than most PCA churches.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:52 pm to DownSouthJukin
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If they actually did this they’d be joining the Roman Catholic Church.
The Church needs purging. There are a lot of nefarious and demonic beings in it currently.
We're currently on our second demonic communist pope (that's two in a row!).
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:52 pm to dickkellog
Not dying. Most Prots are in non-denom large churches now. Where they play rock music and the preacher wears jeans.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:52 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:Everything seems to go back to "what do you mean by belief?"
Believing that Jesus is the son of God does not save you. Making him the Lord of your life does. Although the first thing listed is a necessary requirement, it is not sufficient on its own.
Posted on 10/27/26 at 12:56 pm to Incheon Sinchan
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We're currently on our second demonic communist pope (that's two in a row!).
Once that type of people gained control of the Cardinals you are going to see a lot of bad popes.

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