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Christie says DeSantis should drop out if he defends Trump at debate

Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:59 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26034 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:59 am


If Gov. Ron DeSantis follows political consultants’ advice to defend former President Donald Trump during the first Republican presidential debate next week, then he should “get the hell out of the race,” former Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey said Friday, poking DeSantis from his home state of Florida.

“He should do Donald Trump a favor and do our party a favor, come back to Tallahassee and endorse Donald Trump,” Christie said to applause before a friendly crowd in South Miami. “The only way to beat someone,” he added, “is to beat him.”

Christie mocked a strategy memo, internal polling and other data published online by a firm associated with a super political action committee that has effectively taken over DeSantis’ campaign. With unusual bluntness, the documents suggested that DeSantis defend Trump against Christie’s expected debate attacks. The documents advised DeSantis to credit Trump for his accomplishments, but add that it is time for a new standard-bearer.

Seattle Times
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24336 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:00 am to
He should never have gotten involved in the first place.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:01 am to
Christie should drop some weight
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
3983 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:01 am to
Cardiac Christie can be safely ignored by everyone.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29165 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:02 am to
The defending trump strategy is a loser. See 2016.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14280 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:04 am to
Vivek will be the only one chumming up to Trump bc he’s grifting MAGA.

Everyone else is going to hit Trump hard.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Vivek will be the only one chumming up to Trump bc he’s grifting MAGA.

Everyone else is going to hit Trump hard.


It is quite the problem for them. You defend trump and you do not piss off MAGA which is the majority of the GOP. You trash Trump and you tack the last nail in your political casket.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 10:13 am
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2389 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:14 am to
I guess in the big picture it really does not matter very much how the debate goes as more people will be watching youtube anyways.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4475 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:16 am to
Christie’s only purpose is to serve as an attack dog and try to finally bust the focal center of the MAGA movement.

Remove the focal point and kill the movement.

If DeSantis isn’t going to play the game then he’s of no use to them either.

Just like they did with the Tea Party years ago, the establishment global neocon Republicans are seeking to obliterate the greatest threat to their own continued control of the party.

Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:16 am to
Frick Krispy Kreme
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68152 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:18 am to

No one can win by alienating Trump's people.

Sounds like Ron's consultant understands that.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25321 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:20 am to

Less donuts is what Christie should be focusing on.

Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Everyone else is going to hit Trump hard.


Let them.

It's not going to work out the way you think it will. There is no way they can win the nomination without peeling off a big chunk of MAGA voters. You don't do that by trashing the guy They've supported for the last 8 years. You do it by offering a better alternative. Of which I haven't seen any of them do with any real effectiveness.

It's the same reason all of your bullshite will never ever convince a single solutary MAGA poster on here to switch their allegiance to DeSantis or anyone else.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4152 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:21 am to
Christie tries to stay relevant...
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:23 am to
frick him.
Posted by Taketts
Member since Feb 2023
116 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:27 am to
Christie is right as usual. He seems to be the only one willing to "tell it like it is" this cycle. No one likes a coward so if Desantis wants to be respected, he shouldn't try to defend Trump. That would be absolutely pathetic. If you are too scared to criticize your main rival, why are you even running? Just drop out.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 10:34 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49752 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:31 am to
I agree with Christie on this.

DeSantis refuses to point out Trump's failures and call him out by name. No way he gets any traction with these tactics.

In a recent interview he said that the trillions spent in 2020 was too much, "and that includes republicans", while naming Biden concerning the spending in 2021/2022.

Refusing to name Trump when talking about his frick ups is a incredibly bad strategy.

Great governor and leader but apparently a horrendous campaigner.

*He still has my vote mouthbreathers.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14280 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:34 am to
quote:

There is no way they can win the nomination without peeling off a big chunk of MAGA voters.


And there is absolutely no way Trump wins by attacking conservative Governors and continually dividing Republicans. This isn’t 2016, he lost a lot of voters already after Covid.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:35 am to
frick Christie, he would sell his children if it gave him a job at CNN at this point.

DeSantis is going to do what he always does, speak truths. He will talk about the 2 Tiered Justice system and how the prosecution is ridiculous but will focus on how that's a lot bigger than just one Billionaire. It's about the little people who say a prayer outside an abortion clinic or dare to do something the regime doesn't like. He will also talk about the hypocrisy with the Bidens and BLM and others.

Who wants sane leadership though?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49752 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:41 am to
People like to repeat Reagan's comment about not attacking another republican.

They forget he found the tactic didn't work and pulled ahead after he started shitting on his opponent.
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