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re: Check in if you are a moderate
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:33 pm to texridder
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:33 pm to texridder
quote:
Name a couple of liberal positions Trump has taken since he has been in office.
Paid maternity leave
Pro gay rights
Protectionist economic policies
Pro immigration reform
Those were all considered liberal positions all of 20 years ago. In terms of labor, Trump is what most democrats used to be.
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:34 pm to LSU2ALA
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honest conversation
This would be nice, but it is a concept that is virtually non-existent on the left. In short, they have spun a web of lies and actual honesty would unravel their efforts.
Besides, what does the term "moderate" actually mean anymore. The progressive liberal agenda has gone so far to the left that in their collective mind, JFK would be deemed conservative, Reagan is a Nazi, Trump is Satan, and Stalin is simply a misunderstood moderate.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:35 pm to texridder
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Name a couple of liberal positions Trump has taken since he has been in office.
he has indicated that he will sign a marijuana legalization/decriminalization bill
he is pushing for infrastructure spending
he signed the omnibus bill
he has reduced our overseas military presence to their lowest levels since before WWII
he has also used our military less than ANY president in many many decades
he has expanded aid to farmers
remember when staying out of wars and helping farmers in the heartland were liberal issues? I remember...
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:36 pm to NIH
See, that seems to lead to shutdown of actual discussion because it is "Us" vs "Them" mentality takes over and we all lose. I knew "The Donald" years ago and he never stuck me as having any interest in anything that did not benefit him directly or indirectly. I really don't think he is a true believer of either party but I do believe he wants an American monarchy based more on wealth and less on public works.
If I wanted a ruler, the far right seems headed that way.
If I wanted a mob, the far left seems headed that way.
Capitalism without a human element and we are headed back to robber barons.
Social equality without struggle and individual success means the hive mentality of Reds
Moderate is not the absence of backbone but the ability to protect freedom from either extreme to take it by degrees. A true moderate should want individual success but a similar success for the overall community where the individual actually lives and works.
If I wanted a ruler, the far right seems headed that way.
If I wanted a mob, the far left seems headed that way.
Capitalism without a human element and we are headed back to robber barons.
Social equality without struggle and individual success means the hive mentality of Reds
Moderate is not the absence of backbone but the ability to protect freedom from either extreme to take it by degrees. A true moderate should want individual success but a similar success for the overall community where the individual actually lives and works.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:37 pm to AggieHank86
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I have NEVER attacked a poster who did not attack me first. Never.
So two wrongs make a right? That’s the thing with you. You are always demanding (whining if we’re honest) others engage in civil convo with you but you are one of the bigger shite slinging posters on this board.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:38 pm to GregMaddux
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Christ man that’s not at all what people mean by saying they don’t care about social issues.
You don't realize you are forced to pay for that stuff ?
Why would they say they are a Fiscal Conservative when it's obvious they aren't ?
If you are Fiscal Conservative you are conservative on all things involving money.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:39 pm to dcbl
quote:I must have missed the things that Trump came in willing to negotiate on. Perhaps you could enlighten me with a few examples.
because Trump came in willing to compromise and negotiate
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:41 pm to AggieHank86
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not remotely a “conservative
Heritage foundation disagrees with you though I can’t vouch for their conservative credentials. Just always hear them touted as the gold standard.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:41 pm to texridder
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Name a couple of liberal positions Trump has taken since he has been in office.
He keeps signing massive spending bills with foreign aid and Planned Parenthood funding in them , just like a Liberal would.
That was easy !
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:41 pm to DallasTiger11
I’d imagine he’s insufferable in real life
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:43 pm to jimmy the leg
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JFK would be deemed conservative
JFK was a playboy with bootlegger money
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Reagan is a Nazi
Reagan was an bad actor who was the puppet of the puppeteer
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Trump is Satan
Trump is a narcissist with no clue
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Stalin is simply a misunderstood moderate
Of the group Stalin was certainly the most ruthless and pretty sure nobody with even a sub par IQ would think him a misunderstood moderate.
I always liked Goldwater, Ford, and Dole but none of them could win the Republican voters enough to actually affect a better America.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:43 pm to Cheese Grits
Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue. Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice.
Leftists have no use for American traditions, principles, ideals and Institutions. Start with the 1st Amendment, move on to the 2nd Amendment and go from there-Leftists would replace them tomorrow if we stood down.
All The Right seeks is to CONSERVE these traditions, principles, ideals and Institutions. That is the opposite of “ dangerous “. That is our duty as citizens.To protect our birthright and conserve it for future generations. You should get off the fence of simple minded moral relativism , and join us.
Leftists have no use for American traditions, principles, ideals and Institutions. Start with the 1st Amendment, move on to the 2nd Amendment and go from there-Leftists would replace them tomorrow if we stood down.
All The Right seeks is to CONSERVE these traditions, principles, ideals and Institutions. That is the opposite of “ dangerous “. That is our duty as citizens.To protect our birthright and conserve it for future generations. You should get off the fence of simple minded moral relativism , and join us.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:44 pm to DallasTiger11
Obamacare was the most Republican Healthcare Bill this nation has ever seen. Libs couldn’t even get a public option.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:44 pm to texridder
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I must have missed the things that Trump came in willing to negotiate on. Perhaps you could enlighten me with a few examples.
He offered amnesty to 2M people
He’s expressed willingness to legalize marijuana
He wants to spend a fortune on infrastructure
Trump is a pretty fungible politician. He gets nervous about his base’s reaction to things but he obviously is open to dealing.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:45 pm to Cheese Grits
The country needs to go hard right for two generations to politically re-center the country.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:46 pm to Cheese Grits
I’m very moderate. Extremely liberal on social issues and fiscally conservative.
The left has lost it to a bunch of socialist loons.
The left has lost it to a bunch of socialist loons.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:47 pm to TOKEN
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Obamacare was the most Republican Healthcare Bill this nation has ever seen. Libs couldn’t even get a public option.
Shhh the left doesn’t want to admit their hero’s signature legislation benefited big insurance companies more than anyone
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:48 pm to Cheese Grits
I guess I am a moderate. I believe in an amicable split of the nation over civil war.
Seriously though, where the hell is this far right I keep hearing about? I don't think their numbers are significantly greater than they have ever been.
Furthermore, whatever exists of "the far right" has no power or influence. None.
Seriously though, where the hell is this far right I keep hearing about? I don't think their numbers are significantly greater than they have ever been.
Furthermore, whatever exists of "the far right" has no power or influence. None.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:49 pm to Cheese Grits
The Far Left is more dangerous to the country, but regardless I find myself to be a moderate.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 7:52 pm to Wednesday
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To me, it’s just too often that moderates are really just scared to have a position on anything.
Or I agree with the Left on some issues and the Right on others. It just means I have a fricking brain and don't blindly follow one side and demonize the other.
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