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re: Charlie Kirk takes down anti-gay Christian
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:19 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:19 am to OMLandshark
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No it’s gluttony. No different from lust.
We can agree here.
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judge a law abiding decent gay couple
Here's where you lose me. Law abiding decent gay couple.
Whose law are they abiding? It isn't God's.
Decent? By whose measure? If they are engaging in sexual acts outside of a Biblical marriage, that makes them willfully living in sin- the opposite of decency.
I'm not here to argue gay marriage as a civil matter, but when you bring God and judgement into it- God already had his say, ignore it at your own peril.
Sin is sin is sin is sin... and we all fall short. Practicing homosexuals don't get a pass anymore than fornicating whores do, or anyone else committing any other sin.
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:21 am to SallysHuman
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Whose law are they abiding? It isn't God's.
You cant legislate other people's morality. It dont work that way.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:21 am to Narax
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I think you confused being unable to stop sinning vs being proud of your sin.
Well, pride is the ultimate sin, and I find the lust factor to be the secondary sin in the pride parades for this reason.
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But there is something wrong if you think most morbidly obese people are having a parade and celebrating gluttony.
I have several gay/lesbian friends and not one of them goes to a Pride parade. It’s turned into a degenerate hellscape to where the gay people that meant they just wanted to be seen as equals in the eyes of the law no longer want to be a part of it.
And there are fat people who go out and do similarly prideful shite:
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And no, you are wrong, we all defile our bodies with Sin, dont act holier than thou, we need Christ's death on the cross.
Yeah, but some sins lead to earlier deaths than others.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:21 am to Giantkiller
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One of the bigger mistakes I feel like I made was not knowing more about this guy.
Not equating you as a Leftist. But this is where the majority of the The Far Left were. They never knew anything Charlie actually said, only the cut up memes they read on DU, Daily Kos, Occupy Democrats, and Reddit which were taken out of context.
They did this with many of his 2A speeches and if you went back and listened to the entire part, it was nothing like the part that was cut out.
Much like Trump's speech on Charlotte where they quote the "good people" portion. You will never see them post the excerpt of the speech before and after that section.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You cant legislate other people's morality. It dont work that way.
I have no desire to legislate other's morality.
I am responding to a poster comparing gluttony to homosexuality. That is all.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:23 am to Robin Masters
I could not care less what consenting adults do behind closed doors. Being a conservative is about much more than your sexuality. Do you believe in free speech, nationalism, crackdown on open borders, less government, freedom of religion, etc.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:24 am to SallysHuman
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I have no desire to legislate other's morality.
It sounds like it. Its not my business if two dudes want to marry.
Has zero to do with my salvation.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:26 am to Robin Masters
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Charlie Kirk takes down anti-gay Christian
Im not sure if OP did it on purpose but the thread title can be taken a different way
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:26 am to Kafka
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Which is why I was not a fan of CK
And he respected your right to do just that, as it should be.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:26 am to ibldprplgld
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Yup, Charlie got that. He spoke to gay conservatives on multiple occasions and was always clear: I don’t agree with your life choices as a Christian, but you are more than just who you sleep with, you have value, and you are welcome under the conservative tent.
Exactly and the truth is I am a terrible sinner in thought and deed. I am in no position to judge another. Im not going to say that homosexuality is “normal” but is two people loving each other the worst thing in the world? No one asked my wife and I about our bedroom behaviors when we got married, why would I care about someone else’s.
These sweater vest, stick in the arse conservatives are what allowed the Clinton Democrat machine to dominate politics from the last 25 years. It turned me off in the mid 90s and I went full libertarian after that until Trump.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:27 am to SallysHuman
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Whose law are they abiding? It isn't God's.
Well I’ll quote Charlie Kirk here in that we don’t live in a theocracy.
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Decent? By whose measure? If they are engaging in sexual acts outside of a Biblical marriage, that makes them willfully living in sin- the opposite of decency.
Oh please, how many people did that shite before they married? 80%+? Yes it was a sin when I did it before marriage, but that’s also why I don’t judge a gay person for doing it as well.
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I'm not here to argue gay marriage as a civil matter, but when you bring God and judgement into it- God already had his say, ignore it at your own peril.
While I am pro-gay marriage in the legal sense, I would have a major problem and leave my church if they performed a gay marriage there since it obviously isn’t Biblical. That being said I would not mind going to one so long as it’s in a secular setting.
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Sin is sin is sin is sin... and we all fall short. Practicing homosexuals don't get a pass anymore than fornicating whores do, or anyone else committing any other sin.
Well I know from where I grew up that a pastor once kicked out an entire family from his congregation for not disowning a gay family member. And like 1/3rd of his congregation is morbidly obese. Sorry that’s hypocrisy, and sure as frick isn’t what Jesus would do.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:29 am to Corinthians420
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Im not sure if OP did it on purpose but the thread title can be taken a different way
No most assuredly not. I can’t keep up with the kids and their lingo. I have two teenagers and it’s like they speak a foreign language
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:43 am to OMLandshark
You can love and support the person, but you are not required to condone their sin. As a Christian, you never should.
Luckily, I've never had a gay person press me on God's aspect of their lifestyle. Being homosexual is not inherently bad. Practicing homosexuality is bad and the Holy Bible outlines it as such. That's what I would tell them if asked. Same way I wouldn't pass judgement on a woman who had an abortion, but if she asked me if I thought she had committed a sin by doing so, I would absolutely tell her yes and that the Bible says so.
GOD loves everyone. He did indeed tell the Pharisees that were going to stone the prostitute that those who were without sin to cast the first stone.
But then He went to the prostitute and told her to sin no more.
Luckily, I've never had a gay person press me on God's aspect of their lifestyle. Being homosexual is not inherently bad. Practicing homosexuality is bad and the Holy Bible outlines it as such. That's what I would tell them if asked. Same way I wouldn't pass judgement on a woman who had an abortion, but if she asked me if I thought she had committed a sin by doing so, I would absolutely tell her yes and that the Bible says so.
GOD loves everyone. He did indeed tell the Pharisees that were going to stone the prostitute that those who were without sin to cast the first stone.
But then He went to the prostitute and told her to sin no more.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:49 am to BamaGradinTn
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But why the focus on homosexuality?
There’s just something very unnatural and unseemly about one guy schlonging another guy’s turd channel, even without the biblical proscriptions.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:30 pm to OMLandshark
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Well, pride is the ultimate sin, and I find the lust factor to be the secondary sin in the pride parades for this reason.
All sin falls short of God.
Everyone must repent and be saved.
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I have several gay/lesbian friends and not one of them goes to a Pride parade. It’s turned into a degenerate hellscape to where the gay people that meant they just wanted to be seen as equals in the eyes of the law no longer want to be a part of it.
And they can be fantastic Americans, but they need salvation no less than those knee deep in the degenerate hellscape, nor more than I do.
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And there are fat people who go out and do similarly prideful shite:
Yup its a left wing thing, but its also a human thing, to put our sin on a pedestal, to withhold it from the cross.
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Yeah, but some sins lead to earlier deaths than others.
Things are sinful not because they kill us, they are sinful because they are outside of God's plan.
Thats the crux of it reject Christ and keep your sin, or admit you need the cross and that your sins are unacceptable to a holy and just God.
No matter be they murders or rapists, the cross can save all, if they repent.
You cant believe in the real God and not be driven to repent.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 5:39 pm to Narax
The state can marry whomever they want. It's not the same as the church marriage. If your church sanctions gay marriage, I recommend you look for another church.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:01 pm to dalefla
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The state can marry whomever they want. It's not the same as the church marriage. If your church sanctions gay marriage, I recommend you look for another church.
Or,
The state can call a dog a fish, but if your pastor does I recommend that you look for another church.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 10:32 pm to BamaGradinTn
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So none of those churches would accept a Catholic (infant baptism) as being a Christian. They would not accept a believer who had never been baptized as being a Christian.
The Catholic Church accepted my Baptist baptism as real.
Catholics are confirmed about the same age Baptists teach the age of accountability. The Catholic Church welcomes everyone but not everyone should take communion. There were some obvious lesbians that I would see at mass every Sunday. I see a one of those Pat (little man looking man dressing woman) in the choir at an another Catholic Church that I sometimes attend.
I see All Are Welcome signs outside Christian churches of many denominations.
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