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re: Charlie Kirk and Massie
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:56 pm to CajunTripper
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:56 pm to CajunTripper
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Kirk was a big fan of Massie, if Charlie's not killed how is this shaking out? Would Trump have attacked Charlie for supporting Massie?
I was a big fan of Massie back then too. I loved his stalwart small government conservatism. But in the interim, I feel like he has demonstrated himself to be a grandstanding, disingenuous ahole. I think Kirk probably would have ended up there, too.
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:56 pm to DeBoar
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You’re also ignoring how much Charlie adored Trump and how happy he was that Trump won the 2024 election.
Massie also won in the 2024 election
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:57 pm to arktiger28
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I was a big fan of Massie back then too. I loved his stalwart small government conservatism. But in the interim, I feel like he has demonstrated himself to be a grandstanding, disingenuous ahole. I think Kirk probably would have ended up there, too.
How dare he have principles and believe in the rule of law. Unbelievable lmao
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:58 pm to lsuguy84
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Kirk would’ve been castoff as soon as he opposed the war in Iran.
Candace, max blumenthal, Jimmy dore, TYT, etc would want you to believe this, but didn’t though. Check his last statement on Iran.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:00 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Charlie would be treated like Tucker, MTG, Candace, Massie, etc.
Bullllshit. You obviously don’t understand how powerful Charlie was becoming. It’s why they killed him.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:02 pm to CajunTripper
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Would Trump have attacked Charlie for supporting Massie?
I doubt it. Charlie was a big part in getting him elected. The youth vote he received was incredible.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:03 pm to DyeHardDylan
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How dare he have principles and believe in the rule of law. Unbelievable lmao
Principles? How much did Massie care about Epstein from 2020-2024. He called Trump's administration the Epstein administration up until he realized his plight a few weeks ago, and has tried to cuddle back up with Trump to secure the win. He is such a principled conservative that the ladies of the view and most leftists love and are rooting for him for how much he serves their purposes. Rule of law? How about when he exposed 4 innocent men listed in the Epstein case as nefarious, who were found to be innocent, and then never retracted or apologized. Get out of here with that bull crap like I haven't been watching him the last year.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:10 pm to DustInTheWind
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I’m just simply saying Trump would have been able to hurt Kirk’s popularity. Not he himself. But through other forms of defamation. Trump has demolished all of Kirk’s people. I think if he wanted to hurt Kirk he could have.
They would've damaged each others brands for sure, to the great detriment of the 2024 winning GOP coalition. It would've been far worse than DeSantis vs Trump in 2022-2023.
But open attacks on CK, while they certainly would've been harmful to a degree IMO would've triggered an open and full split between "MAGA" as its currently defined and AF with Vance and CK on one side and Trump and Rubio on the other to fight it out for control of the message moving forward. Right now AF is sitting around bitching like me but still wanting to support Trump in the hope that he comes back to his original positions whereas if forced to choose would've openly and strongly backed Vance and CK given the new positioning of the Trump administration.
Im not honestly sure who would win that in 2028 with Trump no longer on the ticket but still involved, but by 2032 Id bet a lot of money that Charlie Kirk would've been defacto running the GOP and likely be a presidential front runner in his early 40s.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:11 pm to CajunTripper
Trump has been crying about Massie since 2020.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:13 pm to TrueTiger
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Kirk would have kept him stabilized.
Meh...I am not so sure. I don't recall s single instance where Kirk pushed back on the outlandish claims that DeSantis was a "globalist RINO WEF Stooge." He simply didn't weigh in on the matter at all.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:16 pm to The_Duke
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Kirk was actually going the other way and pulling back from Trump because of this love fest with Israel
Id argue he wasnt yet pulling back from support of Trump, but he sure as hell was lighting into Israel and was 100% opposed to a war with Iran, both of which absent changes in policy would've resulted in a split between CK and Trump.
Charlie Kirk was all but accusing Israel of allowing the attack to occur on their own nation and specifically states he thought they were going to ethnically cleanse Gaza as part of their response. And that was before the push to war with Iran which he interestingly enough never lived to see after making those statements.
The only question would be how bitter the divide would've become, but given what's happened with Tucker Carlson and MTG I'd bet on the fight becoming ugly eventually.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:19 pm to DeBoar
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Why didn’t Thomas Massie vote to censure ilhan omar over her comments on Charlie Kirk’s death?
Why hasn't the DOJ charged her on fraud? And they could still do that, today. Like right now as you're reading this.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:23 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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Bullllshit. You obviously don’t understand how powerful Charlie was becoming. It’s why they killed him.
“They” didn’t kill him, he was killed by a leftist.
Kirk stated that he trusted President Trump was doing the right thing with the 2025 strikes against Iran, as diplomacy failed.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:47 pm to 632627
Sorry Massholes, Charlie’s tweet on 6/21/25:
Iran gave President Trump no choice. For a decade he has been adamant that Iran will never get a nuclear weapon. Iran decided to forego diplomacy in pursuit of a bomb. This is a surgical strike, operated perfectly.
President Trump acted with prudence and decisiveness.
Iran gave President Trump no choice. For a decade he has been adamant that Iran will never get a nuclear weapon. Iran decided to forego diplomacy in pursuit of a bomb. This is a surgical strike, operated perfectly.
President Trump acted with prudence and decisiveness.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:24 pm to Ten Bears
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Meh...I am not so sure.
I just look at what happened.
Kirk was like gravity that kept some in a stable orbit.
After he was gone Candice, Tucker, and Massie all went tumbling into outer space.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:25 pm to Cuz413
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Why hasn't the DOJ charged her on fraud? And they could still do that, today. Like right now as you're reading this
You have an excuse for everything for Masshole
A True Cult member
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:46 pm to DyeHardDylan
They knew what they were doing when they killed Charlie.
Cut off the head and TPUSA dies.
Cut off the head and TPUSA dies.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:53 pm to CajunTripper
Trump killed them both for opposing Israel first.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:53 pm to CajunTripper
Charlie would've did Charlie. He would've called out Massie for the stuff he didn't agree with.
He would've called out trump for the stuff he didn't agree with.
Charlie would've been okay even if trump trashed him, because Charlie had his own massive following who would've supported him regardless.
Massie on the other hand has a small following. Some say very small, I don't know I just know what I hear. So he was effectively destroyed by trump.
He would've called out trump for the stuff he didn't agree with.
Charlie would've been okay even if trump trashed him, because Charlie had his own massive following who would've supported him regardless.
Massie on the other hand has a small following. Some say very small, I don't know I just know what I hear. So he was effectively destroyed by trump.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:20 pm to DyeHardDylan
quote:The entire anti Israel right movement completely fell apart at the most convenient time possible for Israel. It’s so in your face obvious. Charlie was the squeaky clean one that couldn’t be dismissed as a kook like Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, Tuck, etc. He was a big problem for all of this stuff going on. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but it’s so obvious.
Charlie’s adherence to non-intervention and his growing skepticism of Israel is what got him killed. Everyone knows it.
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