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re: Charlie Kirk and Massie

Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17609 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:23 pm to
Israel didn’t like Kirk or Massie so yes.

MIGA
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
1905 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Piggie, it sounds like you're ignoring the growing list of those, who were with President Trump when he won in 2024, who are now considered mortal enemies of the NPC ranks


Why didn’t Thomas Massie vote to censure ilhan omar over her comments on Charlie Kirk’s death?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Why didn’t Thomas Massie vote to censure ilhan omar over her comments on Charlie Kirk’s death?


Did you ask him?

Do you believe in 1st Amendment rights?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98240 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:37 pm to
I doubt Kirk would support a person who lied about being a sexual deviant
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23381 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

It’s a lot different when you have the kind of power Trump has behind him.

Trump doesn’t have the Gen Z crowd.

He had them in 2024 because he made big promises that haven’t been fulfilled and because TPUSA turned out that vote.

I’d argue it’s you who doesn’t understand the Gen Z youth movement if you think it was Trump who held the power over them relative to CK.

Half those dudes are gonna be voting socialist within a decade if we don’t find a way to help them onto the prosperity ladder soon and Charlie Kirk said as much repeatedly. They’re just giving the populist AF approach a chance but if it doesn’t deliver they’re gonna try something else because they’re extremely unhappy with the status quo and pissed at Trump for how the first 18 months have gone.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4409 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:47 pm to
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Kirk probably would have distanced himself from Massie by now.


Kirk was actually going the other way and pulling back from Trump because of this love fest with Israel
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12954 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:49 pm to
Kirk would have distanced his self from Massie the way he has been acting .
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14173 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

if Charlie's not killed

He becomes a future POTUS. Trump recognized the potential, and would have done whatever it takes to advise Kirk and keep him out of the political weeds during his ascent.
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13997 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Trump doesn’t have the Gen Z crowd.

He had them in 2024 because he made big promises that haven’t been fulfilled and because TPUSA turned out that vote.

I’d argue it’s you who doesn’t understand the Gen Z youth movement if you think it was Trump who held the power over them relative to CK.

Half those dudes are gonna be voting socialist within a decade if we don’t find a way to help them onto the prosperity ladder soon and Charlie Kirk said as much repeatedly. They’re just giving the populist AF approach a chance but if it doesn’t deliver they’re gonna try something else because they’re extremely unhappy with the status quo and pissed at Trump for how the first 18 months have gone.
My son and daughter in law are Gen Z and this post is spot on
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20009 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:51 pm to
Kirk wouldn't have stood by Massie. Charlie was well grounded. Massie is a grifter.
Posted by DustInTheWind
Member since Sep 2016
938 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:53 pm to
I’m not saying Trump has the Gen Z voters.

I’m just simply saying Trump would have been able to hurt Kirk’s popularity. Not he himself. But through other forms of defamation. Trump has demolished all of Kirk’s people. I think if he wanted to hurt Kirk he could have.

I will say it’s interesting that the entire anti Israel portion of the Republican Party died at a very convenient time for Israel. So there’s definitely some conspiracy theories there.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 5:26 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43922 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

Kirk was a big fan of Massie, IF Charlie's not killed how is this shaking out? Would Trump have attacked Charlie for supporting Massie?

If a bullfrog had wings ...

If your Aunt Bertha had balls she'd be your Uncle Bert.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts ...
Posted by CajunTripper
Member since Apr 2026
51 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:54 pm to
He supported Trump, also glad you believe laura loomer… for Christ sake the blowjob queen is breaking stories now
Posted by Ozarkshillbilly
Missouri Ozarks
Member since Apr 2025
541 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:59 pm to
Kirk was also a fan of the Big Beautiful Bill, calling it the "most pro American bill of my lifetime."

While he still would have respect for Massie, I think he would have been disappointed on Massie's BBB vote

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6375346802112
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98240 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:39 pm to
quote:


He supported Trump,


And. Orange never lied about being a deviant

quote:

also glad you believe laura loomer… for Christ sake the blowjob queen is breaking stories now


Loomer is a clown. Im trusting what the lady said not her. You know we must believe all women
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182512 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:43 pm to
Charlie would have fell in line with Trump
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29914 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:45 pm to
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Kirk would’ve been castoff as soon as he opposed the war in Iran.



Which he was on record for doing, already. That is one of the reasons he is not around.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98240 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Charlie would have fell in line with Trump


1000000 %
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9776 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:49 pm to
Charlie’s adherence to non-intervention and his growing skepticism of Israel is what got him killed. Everyone knows it. Erika Kirk is weird and robotic and has turned TPUSA into just another Republican talking point machine. I worry for Massie’s safety, especially if he goes back to private life.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 3:54 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29914 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Charlie would have fell in line with Trump



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