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re: CDC — ‘We didn’t issue alert on Vaccine Myocarditis because we didn’t want to cause panic'

Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12965 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:46 pm to
Hmm

They sure did cancel Dr. Robert Malone when he sounded the myocarditis alarm early on.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17925 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:47 pm to
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They were all duped. dont take your eye off the ball amid election year political infighting. covid was a revelation for all of us. Who can we trust to not make these mistakes again? Its certainly not the party the propagated the lie.

Covid was understood in real time to be the political weapon it clearly was. Covid was also understood in nearly real time to not be the threat to life the Left/establishment promised it was. The argument that enough is known about Covid only in hindsight to make rational decisions is inaccurate.

As for Trump v. others that played along at least for a while - with Trump, he became more compliant over time. With others, it was the other way around. Also, only Trump is accountable for his administration, which the CDC is part of - and he should have made sure his own people were not making shite up, lying, hiding/hedging, etc.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2300 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:52 pm to
They knew this in May 2021, yet Biden issued an Executive Order in September 2021 mandating all federal employees be vaccinated, then doubled down in November 2021 utilizing OSHA and CMS to coerce the majority of the population into vaccination.

And of course, there were also states mandating vaccines for children to attend school, despite their low risk of Covid complications but increased risk of vaccine complications.

All these mandates issued, not a peep about the potential risks.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124004 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:00 pm to
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CDC — ‘We didn’t issue alert on Vaccine Myocarditis because we didn’t want to cause panic'
These bastards should be jailed.

So, contrary to what we were told, the CDC had evidence of post-vax myocarditis VERY EARLY ON. Yet they allowed and encouraged physicians to be ostracized for expressed vax concerns.

Then the CDC pushed for kids to get the shot under EUA's knowing full well the demographic at highest myocarditis risk were young males.

Every medical professional in those email chains should be stripped of medical licensure. Additionally, those who testified falsely under oath about this, (Rochelle Walensky and others privy to the myocarditis info) should be arrested and jailed for perjury.

Bastards!
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9626 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:03 pm to
They should be jailed, but won't. Trump essentially gave Big Pharma and the CDC nerds blanket immunity.

I genuinely feel sorry for those of you that got duped into getting the clot shot.

Team Pureblood for life. Even my 19 yo stepdaughter knows better than to marry or procreate with a person with tainted blood.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:10 pm to
In before crazy4lsu to say we are all “retards” for daring to question if heart issues can be linked to these junk vaccines.

This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124004 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:21 pm to
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Trump essentially gave Big Pharma and the CDC nerds blanket immunity.

No. He didn't. If they lied under oath, they are criminally liable.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:23 pm to
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In before crazy4lsu to say we are all “retards” for daring to question if heart issues can be linked to these junk vaccines.



Maybe he should actually become a Doctor before lecturing us....
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39535 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:24 pm to
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The argument that enough is known about Covid only in hindsight to make rational decisions is inaccurate.


No its not. That's just factually and objectively wrong. Trump got it wrong, so did Ron, and so did literally every other leader in the civilized world to various degrees in the early stages. He presided over the pandemic response for exactly 6 months before being voted out of office. Within that time frame, there wasnt a single world leader questioning these things. They followed what we all thought to be the "science" of the day. All of them. From a global perspective, Trump was repeatedly panned for being too lax on Covid while the current leaders danced in the streets of Chinatown. Dont come here and gaslight everyone. We were there. We dont need you to tell us what happened.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:36 pm to
Ya'll act like this is new.

Vaccines has been causing Autism in select people for years. They knew it, but saving many is more important than the few.



Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17925 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:38 pm to
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No its not. That's just factually and objectively wrong.

Tell me about the facts that made rational the shutting down of schools, closing of beaches, parks, churches, but not liquor stores and race riots.

Ever hear of the Diamond Princess?

Did you know that if the CDC did not change how cause of death was determined, the number of "Covid deaths" would have been less than half of what was being reported?

Did you know that over half of "Covid hospitalizations" involved patients asymptomatic for Covid or suffering only mild symptoms?

Did you know that a murder/suicide was determined to be two Covid deaths? Is it really only by hindsight that we can determine that was utter bullshite?

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He presided over the pandemic response for exactly 6 months before being voted out of office. Within that time frame, there wasnt a single world leader questioning these things.

We were spending trillions on Covid response in March.

Sweden got it a lot closer to right than most, and Trump criticized them for not shutting enough shite down.

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They followed what we all thought to be the "science" of the day.

No. There was never any science behind the Death Certificate Matching program.

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Dont come here and gaslight everyone.

You can't gaslight with facts. I'm sorry if you were fooled by the establishment into believing Covid was a mortal threat to you - assuming you're not old/feeble or already very unwell.

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We were there. We dont need you to tell us what happened.

Yes, Don Lemon was right there with you falling for the biggest scam there's ever been.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:40 pm to
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We're all going to die! Covid is going to kill you!!! Get this vaccine or covid will literally kill you and your family!!!!


Sadly, many in the medical profession believed the lies.

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8943 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:42 pm to
There are a lot of companies that paid employees to take it.

ONCOR
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27952 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:44 pm to
And yet crazy4LSU will somehow claim victory in this thread
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124004 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Covid was also understood in nearly real time to not be the threat to life the Left/establishment promised it was.
You're revising history.
I don't know what you'd hold as "the threat to life the Left/establishment promised it was."

I do know the threat to life the original strains actually were, though. They were roughly 6x-8x more virulent than present-day strains.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Public health officials are politicians first, second and third. The health part comes way down the list.



“Public Health” is largely based on a business model, not a science model.



Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46182 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:57 pm to
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Just another feature of Warp Speed.


Another indication ^^^^ a person is suffering from long haul TDS.

I bet you took multiple injections of the MRNA Juice, didnt ya?
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67138 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:57 pm to
Remember when the Big 10 tried to cancel the 2020 college football season because Covid could potentially cause Myocarditis? I member.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17925 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:01 pm to
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You're revising history.

Not really.

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I don't know what you'd hold as "the threat to life the Left/establishment promised it was."

A threat that warranted the Covid response it got.

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I do know the threat to life the original strains actually were, though. They were roughly 6x-8x more virulent than present-day strains.

I haven't said anything contrary to this.

You're the one that answered a question of mine back in the Covid day about the age when C19 overtook the flu for being more lethal for people that weren't already gravely unwell. As I recall your answer was somewhere between 35-40. There were a lot of good discussions about Covid/Covid response on this board, and I'm not revising history in suggesting that Covid response as we got it was never rational given what was known in real time.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17762 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 2:01 pm to
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So Operation Warp Speed MANDATES that people take the jab?


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