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re: Candace Owens "If white people want more people in the NBA"

Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:12 am to
Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2063 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:12 am to
love her
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11293 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:13 am to
Seems appropriate for this thread.


Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3965 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:15 am to
“I know many business owners and visit shitloads of companies. I don't know anybody that hires race over ability. “

I understand your point but let me add one word
“Private business owners”

Corporations have had race as part of their hiring criteria for over 30 years..

I recall working on corp upward mobility graphs for our management 30 years ago and two criteria was race and gender.. they did not have college.. gpa or levels of technical experience..

And for fun… it was Amoco oil company which was a legacy oil sister that went out of business….
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:42 am to
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Could it be professors want the students dumbed down. It guarantees less work and job security for the professors.

I can only speak for myself, but hell no.
I crave the opposite and lament what’s become of higher ed.
The inability of many students to think critically and to problem solve is maddening.
I could write a book on the change(s) I’ve seen in just two decades of working in academia.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:48 am to
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'do white people have access to basketballs'?

well Jemele allow me to retort, do blacks have access to textbooks?



Pretty sure there are libraries in basically every town and city in America
They are free.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7439 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:20 am to
Be careful what you ask for!

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:24 am to
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If white people would like to have a greater presence in the NBA, then they are going to have to work at their jump shots.


Shooting ability is not what’s keeping white guys out of the NBA
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55752 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:30 am to
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Shooting ability is not what’s keeping white guys out of the NBA


Are you saying white men can't jump and are generally slower than black athletes?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65859 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:44 am to
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Shooting ability is not what’s keeping white guys out of the NBA


And access to school isn't what's holding back black and Hispanic academic achievement.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:51 am to
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I don't know anybody that hires race over ability.


Then you don't look hard enough. Happens every day.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2108 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:54 am to
What?

First of all the trend in the NBA right now is to find another big white dude MVP like Jokic in Euro leagues.

Also the discussion in the NBA is not player diversity but diversity of ownership and leadership. Its essentially all white owned - Jordan's out. 93% of league presidents were white vs 86% players of color.

Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 10:58 am to
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Are you saying white men can't jump and are generally slower than black athletes?


No I’m saying if white players weren’t *generally* better shooters, the NBA would be even darker today
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:01 am to
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And access to school isn't what's holding back black and Hispanic academic achievement.

What’s holding it back then?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:02 am to
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First of all the trend in the NBA right now is to find another big white dude MVP like Jokic in Euro leagues.

Yep, just find another Jokic. It’s that easy
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:05 am to
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it was Amoco oil company which was a legacy oil sister that went out of business….


Unique way of saying they were purchased by BP at a premium.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117588 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:12 am to
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If black people would like to have a greater presence at Harvard, then we are going to have to work at our academics.


A big reason why tons of young teenage black boys don't bother with working on academics is because they stupidly believe they have a future in the NBA, NFL or as a rap star. They have a better chance of being struck by lightening.
By the time they are in H.S. and grasp reality it is too late to catch up academically because they are taking classes in 'basic phase' which means 'functionally illiterate.'
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65803 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:13 am to
Lol, she’s usually right, but not here. Shooting a basketball would heavily favor White people from my years of playing competitive basketball, but there’s a lot more than a “ jump shot” that separates players when it comes to basketball
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:19 am to
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Lol, she’s usually right, but not here. Shooting a basketball would heavily favor White people from my years of playing competitive basketball, but there’s a lot more than a “ jump shot” that separates players when it comes to basketball


It's not meant to be literal. She could have used many different examples. "Whites should learn to jump higher" "run faster" etc.

The point is that no one questions racial disparities in athletics, and rightly so. But the idea that it should be questioned elsewhere is intellectually dishonest.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:21 am to
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This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22101 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 11:29 am to
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If white people would like to have a greater presence in the NBA, then they are going to have to work at their jump shots.


Not historically a white player problem
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