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re: Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro are having a very public break-up on Twitter right now
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:51 am to SirWinston
Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:51 am to SirWinston
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Ben Shapiro is much closer to Bush, Romney, Kristol, Kinzinger and Cheney than he is to America First populism
Meh. He admits on his show he leans more establishment but he criticizes these folks fairly.
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you support him than its quite likely you're GOPe and happy (perhaps openly, perhaps secretly) that Biden "won".
Absolutely not.
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Posted on 11/16/23 at 7:56 am to msutiger
quote:How do people still not understand the difference between Palestinians and Hamas? Imagine being retarded enough to think she supports Hamas.
She isn’t some American first bystander. She’s supporting Hamas and isn’t hiding it.
Here are a few statements Shapiro has made recently:
“It’s unpatriotic to not support Israel.”
“If America won’t provide military support, fine. Israel will just start firing nukes and America will be forced to get involved.”
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 8:06 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:28 am to Pecker
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How do people still not understand the difference between Palestinians and Hamas? Imagine being retarded enough to think she supports Hamas.
If you accuse Israel of genocide for defending itself, you support Hamas.
If you promote and celebrate massive pro-Palestinian protests in England, you support Hamas.
If you incorrectly imply that Israel is mistreating Muslims and forcing them into slums in Jerusalem, you are helping Hamas’ media narrative.
There is a massive difference between wanting America to stay out of it and spewing Hamas talking points about Israel intentionally targeting civilians.
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Here are a few statements Shapiro has made recently:
“It’s unpatriotic to not support Israel.”
“If America won’t provide military support, fine. Israel will just start firing nukes and America will be forced to get involved.”
This isn’t about Shapiro. Everyone knows his position on Israel. It isn’t one or the other. You can be America first and still support a country defending itself against a barbaric terrorist group. This is about Candace being at best ignorant, at worst, anti-Semitic. After the Kanye incident and her behavior during this, I don’t think it is unfair to say she has anti-Semitic tendencies.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:29 am to msutiger
quote:You’re over the age of 50 aren’t you?
If you accuse Israel of genocide for defending itself, you support Hamas. If you promote and celebrate massive pro-Palestinian protests in England, you support Hamas.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:30 am to Pecker
I’m not but I’ll take that as a compliment.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:32 am to msutiger
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this is about Candace being at best ignorant, at worst, anti-Semitic. After the Kanye incident and her behavior during this, I don’t think it is unfair to say she has anti-Semitic tendencies.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:32 am to msutiger
quote:That’s how I meant it
I’ll take that as a compliment.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:33 am to msutiger
well said, candace tries to play the emotional angel too much
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:34 am to SirWinston
This board on Ukraine = there is a lot more historical context to what we're being told; the conflict didn't start in 2022; don't believe the corporate media/MIC/security state propaganda.
This board on Israel = history started on October 7, 2023, it's a bright line issue of good/bad, Hamas = Palestinians, kill them all; swallow the MSM talking points whole; the people protesting the bombardment are all anti-semitic nutjobs and terrorist sympathizers.
This board on Israel = history started on October 7, 2023, it's a bright line issue of good/bad, Hamas = Palestinians, kill them all; swallow the MSM talking points whole; the people protesting the bombardment are all anti-semitic nutjobs and terrorist sympathizers.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:37 am to Pecker
I enjoy listening to both although I don’t necessarily line up 100% with their views.
But I do believe if Israel fails in its mission to totally eradicate Hamas from Gaza they’ll only regroup and attack again and again, until Israel is wiped out. This is their end game, along with much of the Arab world. Hamas is betting on the civilized world to intervene based on the perceived brutality required to quell this organization, which is why they imbed in these public locations. Israel knows this, they know those hostages are likely dead, or if they negotiate for a hostage release Hamas will just take more hostages.
There is no peaceful resolution to this conflict. They’ve been down this path many times.
But I do believe if Israel fails in its mission to totally eradicate Hamas from Gaza they’ll only regroup and attack again and again, until Israel is wiped out. This is their end game, along with much of the Arab world. Hamas is betting on the civilized world to intervene based on the perceived brutality required to quell this organization, which is why they imbed in these public locations. Israel knows this, they know those hostages are likely dead, or if they negotiate for a hostage release Hamas will just take more hostages.
There is no peaceful resolution to this conflict. They’ve been down this path many times.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 8:38 am to SirWinston
“You can be America first and still support actions that aren’t good for America and serve the interests of a foreign nation that sells classified military info to the Chinese”
Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China
Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/16/23 at 9:03 am to Bunk Moreland
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This board on Ukraine = there is a lot more historical context to what we're being told; the conflict didn't start in 2022; don't believe the corporate media/MIC/security state propaganda.
This board on Israel = history started on October 7, 2023, it's a bright line issue of good/bad, Hamas = Palestinians, kill them all; swallow the MSM talking points whole; the people protesting the bombardment are all anti-semitic nutjobs and terrorist sympathizers.
You can’t expect ideological consistency on a board full of inbreds.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:29 am to RollTide1987
quote:Is it just that? I seem to recall her going after Nikki Haley and her “Israel doesn’t need the U.S; the U.S needs Israel” take on things and Candace being put out with taxpayers money going out the door by the billions to fund Israel-who Candace thinks gives no shits about the U.S. Taking our money and wanting to flood Europe, Canada, and the U.S. with refugees Israel doesn’t want.
She is very much against Israel's current war against Hamas because of the civilians who are presently in the firing line.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:45 am to Zap Rowsdower
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embraced the fine art of kayfabe.
It's covfefe when we do it.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:54 am to RollTide1987
I am a white chocolate kind of guy, but if I were not Candace would most def by my flavor.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 11:54 am to WMTigerFAN
They're both pretty annoying. I appreciate what Ben does and that Ben more or less tells you what he believes without hiding the ball. But he does have some neocon/establishment tendencies that are frustrating.
Owens is often pretty non-substantive and will go to some emotional argument (or pick a fight with Bible verses like here) - which is a pretty lame tactic. She's likable, but on substance I don't really see what she often adds to the conversation.
Owens is often pretty non-substantive and will go to some emotional argument (or pick a fight with Bible verses like here) - which is a pretty lame tactic. She's likable, but on substance I don't really see what she often adds to the conversation.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:15 pm to Revelator
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Tucker had her on his show tonight and asked he about it.
Cuck Carlson was in rare form. Apparently the emotion we have shown for the Oct 7 attack is overly disproportional to our emotion when someone dies from a fentanyl overdose. And he's "just asking questions" about the why.
Apparently it's weird to care a little less when someone kills themselves due to drug abuse.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:29 pm to rmnldr
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Shapiro
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neo-con
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Candace
quote:Bingo
grifter
Posted on 11/16/23 at 3:52 pm to RollTide1987
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Ben Shapiro
I had to stop listening to his show because while he's always been mega-orthodox (which never bothered me), the Israel/Gaza situation has completely taken over his entire ethos. Like - I don't think he's talked about literally anything else since it started. Every single show it's Israel-Israel-Israel...
However just for the record, while I fervently support Israel 1000% as they march those terrorist frickers straight into the Mediterranean Sea, I'd like it if he talked national politics a little more often.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 4:00 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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Cuck Carlson was in rare form. Apparently the emotion we have shown for the Oct 7 attack is overly disproportion to our emotion when someone dies from a fentanyl overdose. And he's "just asking questions" about the why.
Apparently it's weird to care a little less when someone kills themselves due to drug abuse.
Those people are Americans and many of them die due to poisoning, not from overdose.
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