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re: Can someone tell me how people who won't take the vaccine are prolonging the pandemic?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:54 pm to Robin Masters
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:54 pm to Robin Masters
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Sure. Measles is still around. Killed 140,000 kids last year. 207,500 total.
pre mmr it killed over 2 million kids yearly.
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:54 pm to dgnx6
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What are you yelling about? We have a vaccine and cases still rose in some states. the ones that had stricter and longer mandates. So how is the vaccine slowing the spread in those states? Because its not.
I was being sarcastic.
Sad that people are still using cases to fear monger was my point. It was a 2020 tactic I thought we had gotten over now that Trump is gone.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:55 pm to Powerman
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Taking the vaccine provides a measured level of immunity that can slow the spread of the virus.
There is no immunity w the vaccine, just reduced symptoms. Which then begs the question, how is it any different/better than having the antibodies?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:57 pm to Powerman
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Taking the vaccine provides a measured level of immunity that can slow the spread of the virus. You should be embarrassed that you are asking this question.
Already having the virus gives me the same
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:57 pm to jimmy the leg
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I have asked fof linked studies on this repeatedly so I can assess what long term effects (if any) may occur.
Well we don't have any "long term" studies on COVID yet either
I guess it boils down to whether you'd prefer to get immunity protection from a vaccine or whether you'd like to take your chances of infection
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:57 pm to pecxs
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bullshite. For the last 15 months, I have visited 14 states, stayed over 100 nights in hotels, and driven from coast-to-coast, even shown up in DC Capital on Jan. 6. In fact, I haven't had a single day without getting out the house. Nothing has stopped me working, hiking, going to beaches, and playing golf. Tested once negative and never have any symptom. I am not going to take the shot for a while. You are telling me I'm the one spread the virus? Get a life.
This is how I’ve been living. I’ve encountered 1000s of people in last year and yet I’ve not had so much as a cough. Most insidious pandemic evah!!!
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:58 pm to tigeraddict
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Already having the virus gives me the same
Sure
For those of us who haven't yet contracted the virus, the vaccine probably is the most prudent thing to do
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:58 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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We should take a vaccine based on lockdown restrictions?
What science book can I find this in?
you are proving the point.
why vax if there are still lockdpwns, mask wearing, etc?
why do they insist you get the shot bit keep society the same?
a rational person would ask these questions.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:58 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Same here. You demand me to have it? That’s exactly why I don’t want it.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 4:59 pm to Powerman
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I guess it boils down to whether you'd prefer to get immunity protection from a vaccine or whether you'd like to take your chances of infection
So, if I already had the infection, you think I'm cool passing on the vax, then?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:03 pm to Powerman
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Sure
For those of us who haven't yet contracted the virus, the vaccine probably is the most prudent thing to do
Or encourage people to lose weight and exercise and spend more time outdoors, virtually guaranteed survival against Covid. But they’ve actually done the opposite. Hmmm.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:03 pm to Powerman
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The more people that take it, the fewer people that get infected
This isn't rocket science
You would think the concept of herd immunity was invented by communists in China who travelled back in time to the 1920s just to spread such "propaganda" in order to weaken their enemies.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:04 pm to BigJim
I don’t understand the whole “you don’t care about people if you don’t get this” attitude. If you have it and are protected then why do you care if I get it or not?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:09 pm to tigafan4life
It feeds their narcissistic need to feel like they are in control.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:10 pm to tigafan4life
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I don’t understand the whole “you don’t care about people if you don’t get this” attitude. If you have it and are protected then why do you care if I get it or not?
Herd Immunity
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Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, or population immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that can occur with some diseases when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections, thereby reducing the likelihood of infection for individuals who lack immunity.[1][2][3] Immune individuals are unlikely to contribute to disease transmission, disrupting chains of infection, which stops or slows the spread of disease.[4] The greater the proportion of immune individuals in a community, the smaller the probability that non-immune individuals will come into contact with an infectious individual.[1]
We will never reach 100% vaccination.
No vaccine is 100% effective.
So each person that is vaccinated reduces the chance that someone unvaccinated gets it or that there is a "breakthrough" case.
This really isn't made up.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:12 pm to Powerman
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Well we don't have any "long term" studies on COVID yet either
I guess it boils down to whether you'd prefer to get immunity protection from a vaccine or whether you'd like to take your chances of infection
I’ll repeat this since reading comprehension may not be your strong suit:
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Until I know more about the effects of mRNA, I will pass. I just don’t see it as necessary for a virus that has had minimal effects (I had Covid) as far as I can tell.
For those stating that I don’t know the long term effects of Covid, that is true. However, I didn’t choose to get Covid so the long term effect is a moot point. Additionally, I had Covid before the vaccine was available to me, so again, a moot point.
At this point, concerning the vaccine, I just don’t see the need to get it without knowing more in terms of long term issues. If someone else chooses to get a vaccine, cool. But (at least at this time) I will pass.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:12 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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There is no immunity w the vaccine, just reduced symptoms. Which then begs the question, how is it any different/better than having the antibodies?
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just reduced symptoms.
Gee I don't fricking know
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:12 pm to BigJim
My risk treatment technique is to accept.
Mitigating the risk means to change your behavior
Transferring the risk in this case is nearly impossible
Avoiding the risk is a non-starter
Mitigating the risk means to change your behavior
Transferring the risk in this case is nearly impossible
Avoiding the risk is a non-starter
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:13 pm to Powerman
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Surprisingly I'm not dead
Give it a couple of years and get back to us (if you are still capable of typing). Some things don't happen right away.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:13 pm to BigJim
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We will never reach 100% vaccination.
If Biden or Inslee measure success by having every adult vaccinated I will refuse just to ensure they fail.
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