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re: Can anyone tell me what we are actually accomplishing in Iran?
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:44 am to jkb531
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:44 am to jkb531
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Terrorists would would rather die than surrender and don't go away that easy.
Exactly. That's why we're killing them there instead of waiting to kill them here. Do you not read history???
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:55 am to RoosterCogburn585
These passive aggressive posts trying to influence the midterms are exhausting.
It’s all day long on here lately.
To answer your question…go read some of this:
It’s all day long on here lately.
To answer your question…go read some of this:
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Description THE GREAT SATAN DOCTRINE WHAT IF THE SLOGANS AREN'T JUST THEATER? For decades, the American public has watched "Death to America" rallies on the evening news and dismissed them as mere political theater angry slogans designed for a local audience. We were told it was empty rhetoric. We were wrong. In The Great Satan Doctrine, the veil is finally lifted to reveal a chilling, documented reality: this animosity is not a fleeting protest; it is a foundational pillar of a state-sponsored theology, codified into the very Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran. This is not a book of theories, whispers, or speculation. It is a forensic, high-stakes deep-dive into the official clerical doctrines and the school textbooks currently sitting on the desks of millions of Iranian children. The revelation is transformative. You will witness how the regime has systematically transformed political grievance into a divinely mandated spiritual obligation. From the first grade, children are taught that hating the "Great Satan" is not a choice, but a prerequisite for faith. This book connects the dots between the quiet ink of Iranian law and the loud, violent reality of its global strategy. The Blueprint for Confrontation It is time to stop viewing Iran through the comfortable lens of traditional diplomacy and start seeing the regime through the lens of its own stated identity. By examining the education system that conditions future generations and the constitutional mandate of the IRGC to export revolutionary fever, this work exposes a blueprint for sustained, divinely sanctioned confrontation. The Great Satan Doctrine is a crucial wake-up call for the West. If we continue to focus only on what the regime can do, while ignoring what it fundamentally believes, we are not just misunderstanding the challenge we are ignoring a threat that has been hidden in plain sight for forty years. If you want to understand why the patterns of history keep repeating, you must read the words the regime has written about itself.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 9:56 am to kingbob
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Iranian missiles are a threat to Paris, Tel-Aviv, and London, not DC, NYC, or L.A.
You are so naive about this. IF left unchecked, these insane, rabid snackbars will eventually drop, or attempt to drop, a nuclear ballistic missile on the continental United States. We figured out how to build intercontinental ballistic missiles with the necessary range, and Iran will, also, if given enough time. It really is that simple.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:01 am to TimeOutdoors
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You mean besides keeping them from having a nuclear weapon? Isn't that worth paying more for oil?
I'm sorry but I can very distinctly remember that, periodically and for two decades, I kept hearing US government officials telling me that "iRaN iS JuSt wEeKs/mOnThS fRoM HaViNg a NuKuLaR bOmB!!1!1!".
I can also very distinctively remember the Establishment MIC convincing GWB that Saddam Hussein was in possession of biological weapons which led to a 20-year war against sand people all over the region.
Yes, I've reached the point where I believe that we (the US) are fighting Israel's war against Iran. I fully understand that the Iranian regime is archaic and draconian, and they're the #1 State sponsor of terrorism in the world, but we'd have been better off less directly involved and simply keeping them in check from the outside.
...and I'm a pro-Israel Christian who believes that they're a great ally. I just happen to believe that their current government is a corrupt entity that is manipulating and taking advantage of the USA.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:02 am to DeBoar
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I’d say the high recruitment levels prove opposite of your feelings.
You can used a broad stroke to try and write that narrative if you want. It is a pretty lazy argument.
There’s advantages to enlisting that don’t just automatically point to “I support the war in Iran”
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:03 am to RoosterCogburn585
If you don’t get rid of them you’ll continue to get the US flooded with places like Michigan, Minnesota, Massachusetts and New York.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:04 am to RoosterCogburn585
Lots of money is being made. It just doesn’t benefit us. We should be happy for the elite and not jealous of them though. Make that money boys!
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:16 am to loogaroo
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These passive aggressive posts trying to influence the midterms are exhausting.
It’s all day long on here lately.
for the authentic ones, they dont really pay attention to the news, they see some report or read some propaganda or concern troll about Iran.
Then they come here and post these exact threads
rinse and repeat
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:23 am to mtb010
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The part that disgusts me is that we, our country, is part of the murdering of 10's of thousands of innocent women and children.
How would you feel if you were to find out this is FACTUALLY inaccurate? Are you open minded enough to consider your current position is based on lies? Are you mature enough to do legit research and be capable of changing your opinion when weighing indisputable truth against lies? To be clear, I’m talking about actual facts. Not believing what is said. Facts. Evidence.
How would you feel if you found out that even when using(worst case scenario) the absolute fictional death counts(and numbers of children and women vs fighting aged men) that Hamas puts out through its Palestinian Ministry of Health, Israel’s war on Hamas has maintained the lowest ratio of combatants to civilian death ratio in modern urban war history. Far surpassing the proportions of even the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Would that change your mind at all? It is factual and supported by a mountain of evidence.
How would you feel if you found out that the vast majority of deaths in Gaza since Oct 7th are actually fighting aged males, and not women and children? Would you feel different? Because that is also factual. It is also an amazing feat, considering the combatants hide in tunnels beneath civilians, in and under schools, in and under hospital, and so on. It’s amazing the ratio is so low, if we are being honest. And a strong indication of enormous efforts to avoid civilian deaths when possible.
Have you also considered how many of the dead were killed by rockets fired at Israel by Hamas that landed in Gaza. Roughly 20% of the rockets they fired do this. Those deaths are counted against Israel by the PMoH. This is factual and supported by evidence.
What about the deaths of the civilians Hamas kills? Hamas doesn’t hide this. They broadcast it, in fact, on social media. Hamas routinely steals humanitarian aid and sells it to civilians at high prices to fund Hamas and its fight. They murder civilians that resist this. They murder civilians that they believe support Israel and the concept of peace with Israel. Factually accurate. Those deaths are counted against Israel by the PMoH. Facts.
How would you feel to learn that every single airstrike Israel delivers must first be approved/authorized in real time by a lawyer deeply versed in international war laws and ethics? And that A LOT of strikes are called off just before they occur due to that lawyer seeing children playing nearby or what appears to be civilian women in the blast area? Would you feel different? Because that is also factually accurate backed by easily accessible evidence. Not all strikes are called off, of course. And in some cases, it is decided that the nearby children are an acceptable casualty if the target value is high enough. Not only is this not an act of genocide, it is evidence of true compassion and a desire to limit civilian casualties.
Consider this. Would you have authorized a targeted airstrike on Hitler during WW2 if it meant killing Hitler and saving millions of lives. Wouldn’t you have authorized that strike if you knew a handful of civilians would also be killed in the strike? How about 100? 1000? 10,000? 1,000,000? At some point the value of every war target is no longer worth the collateral damage. Israel not only considers this on every single airstrike, but it also calls off plenty of strikes because of this. This is unequivocally factual and evidence of something that quite strongly debunks the genocide claim.
But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story amirite?
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/23/26 at 10:58 am to OccamsStubble
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You left out a very important one.
yEP. The globalist thugs, aka the banksters.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:22 am to EasterEgg
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The entire West will be at war with Islam within 10 years. Might as well get the party started!
I am convinced that warfare in the 21st century and beyond has little to do with weaponry, including nukes.
It’s about protecting your culture and borders and not apologizing for it while implementing your kind in other places, and Islamic countries are a hell of a lot better at that than western countries.
The worst thing Iran (or the Muslim world in general) could do is nuke the USA (or any country). Have one? Yes. Use it? Never. They have already drained our will to fight wars. They just need to keep using our tolerance against us and infiltrating our political structures.
The whole thing reminds me of the scene in Batman Returns when Penguin gains control of the Batmobile. You have this powerful, indestructible machine being controlled by its enemy through sabotage, not blown up by firearms or explosives.
Come here with a firearm, and we will blow your head blown off. Come here as an immigrant, and we will elect you mayor of our largest city.
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:26 am to mtb010
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Israel was going to hit Iran whether we helped or not,
Sure Jan
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:26 am to RoosterCogburn585
Same thing we did when we bombed their "nuclear" site.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 11:47 am to BawtHouse
So.... Who's paying the UN to falsify the number of deaths?? A direct report from the UN show that roughly 56-70% of casualties in residential areas are women and children. Why are residential areas being targeted? As it stands now, per the UN, more than half of all casualties in Palestine are women and children.
Also, I guess I can't believe my eyes and ears of the interviews being conducted with IDF soldiers who are openly admitting to targeting women and children.
Am I saying that Israel had no right defending itself after 10/7/2023? Of course not. But at what point do call out the murdering of thousands and thousands of innocent women and children? At what point does Israel go from a nation defending itself to that of a terrorist regime?
Also, I guess I can't believe my eyes and ears of the interviews being conducted with IDF soldiers who are openly admitting to targeting women and children.
Am I saying that Israel had no right defending itself after 10/7/2023? Of course not. But at what point do call out the murdering of thousands and thousands of innocent women and children? At what point does Israel go from a nation defending itself to that of a terrorist regime?
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:01 pm to RoosterCogburn585
It's a new cold war with China on resources. Same reason the US with to Venezuela. Control the oil and you control the world.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:42 pm to mtb010
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A direct report from the UN show that roughly 56-70% of casualties in residential areas are women and children.
The problem with this argument is that their report is based on the data given to them by the Hamas controlled Palestinian Ministry of Health, which also reports zero combatants have been killed. Zero. Think about that.
I’m not saying children and women haven’t been killed. They certainly have, and that is horrible. War is hell. If you compare the facts of what has happened there against every other war in the modern era, the data clearly supports that Israel is actively trying to minimize the collateral damage and weighing the taking of innocent and potentially innocent lives in order to eliminate a valued target. They are doing more than the US has done in its recent wars.
So, why is it different? Pretty obvious. The world doesn’t apply the same standards when it is the Jews. It’s ok for others, but not for them. If what the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was not genocide, this certainly is not. It’s war.
It is problematic that so many accept soundbites instead of fact finding. Just because a lot of people believe a lie, that doesn’t mean the lie is a truth. It is still a lie.
Have some IDF soldiers acted inappropriately…during a war…emotional from what happened on October 7th? Of course, as is seen in any war. Look at Abu Ghraib and a lot of other examples. It’s not ok. But it’s also not genocide.
If Israel truly wanted genocide, they could easily do it. They could easily kill every person in Gaza. If that’s truly what they want, why hasn’t it happened? In fact, for a war that has gone on for like three years…the amount of deaths is remarkably low.
Around 200,000 Iraqi civilians were killed in the Iraq war. Does that mean the US committed genocide over there? Of course not. They also used civilians as human shields, although nowhere near to the level Hamas does.
Hamas WANTS high body counts. It’s why it doesn’t allow its civilians to go into the tunnels. Think about that very hard. When air strikes are underway in Gaza, the combatants go hide in the tunnels. The tunnels are the safest place during air strikes. Hamas does not allows civilians to take refuge in the tunnels. Why do you think that is?
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:48 pm to parrothead
You actually believe the “two weeks away” story?
There’s a bridge in Arizona for sale, cheap…
There’s a bridge in Arizona for sale, cheap…
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:50 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Also why are we still shipping weapons to Ukraine? Imagine a world where these two ridiculous wars are ended.
Posted on 9/23/26 at 12:52 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Economic global meltdown, America included, all by design:
- Globalists/Trump is one step closer to achieving an economic "reset", thus addressing our US national debt
- Institutions and NeoCons/Politician insider-traders keep the money rolling in - ie. the MIC
- Israel allegedly is one step closer to the appearance of their Moshiach. The sleeper Sanhedrin can finally ostensibly achieve world domination.
- Globalists and the Central Banksters gain greater scrutiny, thus greater control over the financial systems of their jurisdictions.
- Silicon Valley / Gay Tech Bro CEOS have fodder to continue to push for SGI in the name of "National Security" amidst the turbulent geopolitical climate, they gain notoriety by feeding their hubris and also checking accounts
- Satan is one step closer towards a One World Government
- Globalists/Trump is one step closer to achieving an economic "reset", thus addressing our US national debt
- Institutions and NeoCons/Politician insider-traders keep the money rolling in - ie. the MIC
- Israel allegedly is one step closer to the appearance of their Moshiach. The sleeper Sanhedrin can finally ostensibly achieve world domination.
- Globalists and the Central Banksters gain greater scrutiny, thus greater control over the financial systems of their jurisdictions.
- Silicon Valley / Gay Tech Bro CEOS have fodder to continue to push for SGI in the name of "National Security" amidst the turbulent geopolitical climate, they gain notoriety by feeding their hubris and also checking accounts
- Satan is one step closer towards a One World Government
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 9/23/26 at 1:00 pm to VOR
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You actually believe the “two weeks away” story?
There’s a bridge in Arizona for sale, cheap…
Bruh, the amount of sarcasm in my statement was ridiculous. thought it would be pretty obvious since it was stated like a stop the covid spread annoucement.
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