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re: Can a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion? Ohio says NO
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:17 pm to White Bear
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:17 pm to White Bear
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Is that your stance if it’s your rape victim pregnant daughter?
Please explain how the abortion wipes out the trauma of the rape.
ETA: Still waiting...
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 6:50 pm
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 4:30 pm to David_DJS
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Believe what is true?
That the sitting President of the country is actually a child molester, that there's clear evidence of this, and that no one is doing anything about it.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:12 pm to Hangover Haven
Some of y’all really need to learn about biology if you are going to have opinions on women’s reproductive health.
Most females start puberty and menstruation between ages 8 and 13. So yes it is very possible for a 10 year old to become pregnant.
If grown adults don’t understand this fact, then it’s quite conceivable that a child might not have enough awareness of their biology to know they have a chance of being pregnant. They may not even be aware of how how one gets pregnant.
Rapists of minors tend to be very manipulative and good at convincing their victim to stay silent. This is well known, so why does it surprise anyone that a 10 year old would wait 6 weeks to say something?
Most females start puberty and menstruation between ages 8 and 13. So yes it is very possible for a 10 year old to become pregnant.
If grown adults don’t understand this fact, then it’s quite conceivable that a child might not have enough awareness of their biology to know they have a chance of being pregnant. They may not even be aware of how how one gets pregnant.
Rapists of minors tend to be very manipulative and good at convincing their victim to stay silent. This is well known, so why does it surprise anyone that a 10 year old would wait 6 weeks to say something?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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that there's clear evidence of this, and that no one is doing anything about it.
Who did Epstein provide girls for? Apparently nobody if we use your litmus test.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:34 pm to Flats
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Who did Epstein provide girls for? Apparently nobody if we use your litmus test.
The frick?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:46 pm to SouthernLib
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This is well known, so why does it surprise anyone that a 10 year old would wait 6 weeks to say something?
Also, why would it surprise anyone that a rabid abortion activist might make something up?
This is 2022, it's a tossup.
Also, anyone who gets a 10 years old kid pregnant should be hanged instantly.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 12:59 pm to mmcgrath
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1) What monster would force a 10 year old rape victim carry out a full pregnancy?
Why did you use the word "force" to describing a perfectly normal bodily function?
What's next? You bitching about society "forcing" someone's heart to continue to beat even though they want to commit suicide?
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Is it even safe for a 10 year old?
If it's not, she can carry it to the point of viability and have a c-section.
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2) is it really too much to have the topic of tampons in shows for 8-12 yo audiences?
How does your mind connect these two issues?
You're a raving lunatic!
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:03 pm to Azkiger
quote:In another thread, someone was bitching that a kid's movie (the new Baymax from Disney) mentioned tampons.quote:How does your mind connect these two issues? You're a raving lunatic!
is it really too much to have the topic of tampons in shows for 8-12 yo audiences?
Apparently, the menstrual cycle is one of those things that are never to be discussed.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:09 pm to mmcgrath
I smell lots of crap
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:13 pm to AggieHank86
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Apparently, the menstrual cycle is one of those things that are never to be discussed.
How TF does that relate to a 10 year old getting raped? Maybe she'd have fought off the attacker if only she'd have watched a Disney character shopping for tampons?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Think hard, it’ll come to you.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:22 pm to Flats
quote:That is so bad.
Think hard, it’ll come
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:30 pm to tommy2tone1999
quote:For a 10 year old it wipes out 9 months of a physically challenging and downright dangerous pregnancy along with a very dangerous birth. Then you will have a baby born to that little girl who the state could not possibly allow to remain as the guardian.
Please explain how the abortion wipes out the trauma of the rape.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:37 pm to mmcgrath
MG, I regularly scold the Far Right folks for the inability to see an issue from the other side. Your turn.
These people (truly and deeply) believe that abortion is "murder," at ANY point after the organism becomes a genetically-distinct human. This is true whether you are discussing an 8-cell blastocyst, a nine-month fetus ... or a 6-week embryo. To them, you cannot justify a "murder," no matter how much physical or emotional trauma that "murder" might prevent for another person.
In other words, no amount of trauma to that 10yo child would be adequate to justify an abortion ... ever.
From their perspective, it makes perfect sense and is imminently logical.
These people (truly and deeply) believe that abortion is "murder," at ANY point after the organism becomes a genetically-distinct human. This is true whether you are discussing an 8-cell blastocyst, a nine-month fetus ... or a 6-week embryo. To them, you cannot justify a "murder," no matter how much physical or emotional trauma that "murder" might prevent for another person.
In other words, no amount of trauma to that 10yo child would be adequate to justify an abortion ... ever.
From their perspective, it makes perfect sense and is imminently logical.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:48 pm to mmcgrath
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For a 10 year old it wipes out 9 months of a physically challenging and downright dangerous pregnancy along with a very dangerous birth.
Carrying to viability and performing a c-section is an option if any health issues arise.
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Then you will have a baby born to that little girl who the state could not possibly allow to remain as the guardian.
Ok? So let's just kill it then? Adoption isn't an option?
Such a high profile case would undoubtedly attract lots of public attention. You'd have pro-life parents beating down her door wanting to adopt.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:49 pm to Flats
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Think hard, it’ll come to you.
It isn't confusing. It's idiotic.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Big difference between saying someone is more of a creep, and saying someone is a proven child molester.
True
However, this happened:
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the video of Biden's hand moving down over the little girls breast.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:54 pm to AggieHank86
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MG, I regularly scold the Far Right folks for the inability to see an issue from the other side. Your turn.
These people (truly and deeply) believe that abortion is "murder," at ANY point after the organism becomes a genetically-distinct human. This is true whether you are discussing an 8-cell blastocyst, a nine-month fetus ... or a 6-week embryo. To them, you cannot justify a "murder," no matter how much physical or emotional trauma that "murder" might prevent for another person.
From their perspective, it makes perfect sense and is imminently logical.
There is a very small minority who view an 8 cell blastocyst as a baby. But there are many who will say that as a troll to stop an argument. Just like the idiots who type "shall not be infringed" in all caps. They want some restrictions on guns as well, but they will throw out that argument as a way to knock over the board and displace all the chess pieces as a way to end the argument.
They want to stop an abortion at 20 weeks by women who they think are nonchalantly going about it as a method of birth control. But if the way to stop that is to completely ban abortion by calling it murder at all stages, then so be it.
Anyone who truly believes that there is a baby at conception is a religious zealot who doesn't deserve our attention anyway.
There is a generally accepted 22 week time of "viability" that is accepted. Abortions are performed beyond that because of severe medical issues of the child and/or mother. Of course, without evidence, the religious right thinks that everything is a conspiracy and that the doctors and mothers are simply conspiring. As if moms would carry a pregnancy for 8 moths then suddenly decide "nah."
I think this thread has gone for so long is because the arguments for preventing the 10 year old rape victim from getting an abortion are especially weak because of the extra factors. To argue against the abortion you have to ignore the health of the mother, the viability of a pregnancy in a 10 year old, and a number of other factors. Even if you believe that a fertilized egg is a baby, you have to pretend that there aren't medical decisions that consider the detrimental and possibly deadly effects on the mother.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:55 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I directly stated why.
No - you didn’t.
You deflected without answering. That is poor form on your part. Simply answer the questions or concede the point. The questions aren’t “Kafka traps.” Your refusal to answer is, in and of itself, an answer. Tacit approval imho.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 1:56 pm to mmcgrath
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Just like the idiots who type "shall not be infringed" in all caps. They want some restrictions on guns as well
They told you what they wanted? Weird.
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