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re: Can a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion? Ohio says NO
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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FFS. You really can't just admit that they're both creeps, can you?
Biden is a guy with a REALLY strange notion of personal space … as in “it does not exist.”. It is a big step from there to “child molester.”
Vis-a-vis Ivanka, Trump is probably just an overly-affectionate father with no filter. He has no filter anywhere else, so why expect one regarding his kid? Again, it is a big step from there to thinking that he ever did (or even thought) anything REALLY inappropriate.
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:18 pm to AggieHank86
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Biden is a guy with a REALLY strange notion of personal space … as in “it does not exist.”. It is a big step from there to “child molester.”
Vis-a-vis Ivanka, Trump is probably just an overly-affectionate father with no filter. He has no filter anywhere else, so why expect one regarding his kid? Again, it is a big step from there to thinking that he ever did (or even thought) anything REALLY inappropriate.
I haven't said otherwise, or advocated for anything but them being creeps.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:20 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Didn’t mean to imply otherwise. Your post was just a convenient “reply” button. Sorry.
I haven't said otherwise, or advocated for anything but them being creeps.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:24 pm to AggieHank86
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Didn’t mean to imply otherwise. Your post was just a convenient “reply” button. Sorry.
All good. Just want to make sure no one thinks I'm claiming Trump should be arrested for being a creep.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:25 pm to mmcgrath
Just use the Dem's logic on this:
Can't afford the gas prices? Just buy a Tesla.
Can't afford the gas prices? Just buy a Tesla.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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All good. Just want to make sure no one thinks I'm claiming Trump should be arrested for being a creep.
I love the shiny hook. You will probably get a bite or two. Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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It was a little more than that. Dude's a creep.
What was it? Lay it out and let us voice an opinion.
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FFS. You really can't just admit that they're both creeps, can you?
I'm not arguing that Joe Biden is a creep. I'm arguing that there's enough evidence that he's a child molester than a normal/rational person, when viewing the video of him with that 8 yo girl, would not give him the benefit of the doubt.
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If your argument is that Biden is more of a creep, sure, I agree. That doesn't absolve Trump of anything.
Who's absolving Trump from making a weird/creepy comment?
Now tell us, why did you bring Trump's weird comment in a discussion about Joe Biden showering with his daughter and putting his hand on an 8 yo's breast?
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Well, no, that's not what the thread is about. This was originally a deflection/insult because apparently "baby killer" wasn't cutting it anymore.
Direct us to the post where I called someone a baby killer.
A portion of this thread morphed into a discussion about Joe Biden and the notion that he has molested children. Your contribution to this was mentioning that Trump would have dated his daughter if she was not his daughter.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:40 pm to AggieHank86
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AggieHank86
Aggie, I noticed you didn't bother responding to my post, but I'll try a new question - see if you're comfortable enough to answer it.
Do you think Joe Biden showering inappropriately with his daughter is a matter of Joe's odd notion of personal space?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:41 pm to David_DJS
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What was it? Lay it out and let us voice an opinion.
You have enough to claim that the current POTUS is a child molester, but all this shite Trump has said and done is a mystery?
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I'm not arguing that Joe Biden is a creep. I'm arguing that there's enough evidence that he's a child molester than a normal/rational person, when viewing the video of him with that 8 yo girl, would not give him the benefit of the doubt.
Benefit of the doubt on what?
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Who's absolving Trump from making a weird/creepy comment?
You are. You're downplaying it. Trying to act like it's not so bad after all, because...well, I guess just because that guy over there is worse.
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Now tell us, why did you bring Trump's weird comment in a discussion about Joe Biden showering with his daughter and putting his hand on an 8 yo's breast?
I didn't. You did.
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Direct us to the post where I called someone a baby killer.
Sigh. That isn't what I said.
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A portion of this thread morphed into a discussion about Joe Biden and the notion that he has molested children. Your contribution to this was mentioning that Trump would have dated his daughter if she was not his daughter.
Right. Because of deflection and name-calling. Like I said...
My contribution was to call out your double standard.
You're trying to act like this isn't entirely driven by your politics. I'm just highlighting that.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:54 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You are. You're downplaying it. Trying to act like it's not so bad after all, because...well, I guess just because that guy over there is worse.
You don't believe showering inappropriately with your daughter and putting your hand on an 8 yo's breast are "worse" than saying your daughter is so hot that you'd date her if she wasn't your daughter?
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My contribution was to call out your double standard.
Is the DisplacedBuckeye standard that a comment about dating your daughter is as consequential (in an ugly way) as showering inappropriately with your daughter and putting your hand on an 8 yo's breast? Is that what you're suggesting? Because if that's the standard, you're right.
But if you believe showering with your daughter inappropriately and putting your hand on an 8 yo's breast are more consequential than making a weird comment about dating your daughter, then you're delusional in thinking you've called me out.
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:56 pm to David_DJS
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You don't believe showering inappropriately with your daughter and putting your hand on an 8 yo's breast are "worse" than saying your daughter is so hot that you'd date her if she wasn't your daughter?
It feels like I've had to say this way more than I should...but, I didn't say that.
Now, go ahead and reread what I've actually said, and come back with something that's accurate and useful.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:58 pm to David_DJS
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Do you think Joe Biden showering inappropriately with his daughter is a matter of Joe's odd notion of personal space?
He will just claim she didn’t “write her diary ‘under oath’”
The mental gymnastics he puts himself through to be “objective” is amazing.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:01 pm to David_DJS
Your first question seemed rhetorical, given the remainder of this thread. Biden seems to have no sense of personal space. Yes, I find that weird and would likely find it uncomfortable if I found myself in his presence.
With that assumption, the daughter did not say that he did anything sexual or that he touched her inappropriately, and some folks just worry less about the nudity taboo than others. Personally, I think that the prevailing view is ridiculously Victorian, but I will agree that showering with a daughter would be REALLY strange, especially as she ages.
Honestly, I do not recall the allegations regarding her age at the time. Twelve would be wildly inappropriate. Two would just be a bit weird.
quote:I do not know that this happened, as there seem to be a LOT of questions about the purported diary, but I will assume it is genuine for purposes of your question.
Do you think Joe Biden showering inappropriately with his daughter is a matter of Joe's odd notion of personal space?
With that assumption, the daughter did not say that he did anything sexual or that he touched her inappropriately, and some folks just worry less about the nudity taboo than others. Personally, I think that the prevailing view is ridiculously Victorian, but I will agree that showering with a daughter would be REALLY strange, especially as she ages.
Honestly, I do not recall the allegations regarding her age at the time. Twelve would be wildly inappropriate. Two would just be a bit weird.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:03 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Now, go ahead and reread what I've actually said, and come back with something that's accurate and useful.
Says the guy pretending I haven't described Trump's comment about dating his daughter as weird and creepy. I just don't think it's in the same league as Joe Biden showering inappropriately with his daughter, and for some reason you think that's a double standard on my part.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:06 pm to AggieHank86
She was a teenager at the time.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:09 pm to David_DJS
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Says the guy pretending I haven't described Trump's comment about dating his daughter as weird and creepy.
Well, here's what you actually said:
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Yeah, that comment was weird
And then, as quickly as possible, you retreated to "this guy's worse." Sure, he probably is. But, don't say that you'd treat Trump the same if you aren't willing to do so.
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I just don't think it's in the same league as Joe Biden showering inappropriately with his daughter
I've said as much multiple times.
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for some reason you think that's a double standard on my part
What we've shown here is that your original comment that you'd apply the same standard to both is BS.
I think it's fair to say that this is primarily about your politics. Do you agree with that?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:11 pm to Rebel
quote:Would you kindly provide a link?
She was a teenager at the time.
If she was indeed a teen, that would be extraordinarily inappropriate.
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:11 pm to AggieHank86
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With that assumption, the daughter did not say that he did anything sexual or that he touched her inappropriately, and some folks just worry less about the nudity taboo than others. Personally, I think that the prevailing view is ridiculously Victorian, but I will agree that showering with a daughter would be REALLY strange, especially as she ages.
Honestly, I do not recall the allegations regarding her age at the time. Twelve would be wildly inappropriate.
I don't think there's any question that the diary is real. The FBI's actions suggest that it's real, right?
Biden's daughter described her showers with Joe as inappropriate, and she talked about them (along with other things) leading her to be promiscuous in a very unhealthy/damaging way.
So if you had this understanding, and all the weird sniffing and out of bounds commentary from Biden over the last few decades, why wouldn't you bring that information to how you view him in that video with the 8 yo girl - as you described it yourself, "his hand does move to the child's chest" and you also commented on her reaction being the same whether Joe's hand was intentional or accidental.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Well, here's what you actually said:
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Yeah, that comment was weird
You're being dishonest, or you haven't read all that I've posted regarding this. I have described it as creepy, which I think is your word, too.
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What we've shown here is that your original comment that you'd apply the same standard to both is BS
You haven't shown that at all.
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I think it's fair to say that this is primarily about your politics. Do you agree with that?
I'd bet $100 that we could find a post of mine in these threads where I call Trump weird/creepy before Joe Biden became president. I am not a fan of Trump in many, many ways, and I have no problem being critical of anybody. You are barking up the wrong tree.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:16 pm to David_DJS
You are making three or four distinct layers of assumptions. If that is how you organize your thoughts, fine. I try to avoid doing so.
You act like I am defending a series of actions known to be true. I am simply not willing to assume the truth of some questionable assertions.
If we assume these assertions to BE true, I wholly agree that that behavior is extremely questionable.
You act like I am defending a series of actions known to be true. I am simply not willing to assume the truth of some questionable assertions.
If we assume these assertions to BE true, I wholly agree that that behavior is extremely questionable.
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