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re: Can a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion? Ohio says NO
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:26 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:26 pm to AggieHank86
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I've no doubt that he is Left of your or me on that topic, but I would be VERY surprised to learn that he is one of those who advocates either (a) repeal the 2nd Amendment or (b) guns only for members of an organized militia. Those are the extremist positions that I would consider to be the antipode of "the 2A let's me own tanks and nukes."
He doesn't strike me as a "late third trimester abortion is the coolest thing ever" type, either, which is the antipode of "it is 'murder' one second after fertilization."
He may not directly state either, but it would be the least shocking thing I've seen today if he came out in favor of both. It's practically a requirement for him to hold some of the positions he's held, if he has any interest in being intellectually consistent.
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:27 pm to mmcgrath
If only there are abortion pills that are safe to use for up to 8 weeks
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:If you consider national gun registries to be extreme, then I am. I just think that gun registries and other regulations is the best way for a sane and responsible person to own just about any gun they want without being a danger to others.
Gun rights for sure. Maybe abortion, too.
We have a registry for fully automatic weapons that requires an extensive background check. As far as I know, no one on those lists have harmed anyone else with their weapons since instituted.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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it's a big step to go from "dude's a creep" to "our sitting President is a child molester and no one cares."
I agree.
However, those questions are legit imho.
You do you, but I would not hesitate to answer them. As noted, he is a creep. The depth of his creepiness, however, is being dismissed by you. No offense, but a guy awkwardly staring at a woman he doesn’t know can be creepy. Putting your hands in the areas that he does (repeatedly no less) with children is not run of the mill” creepy imho. It is next level (and then some).
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:33 pm to mmcgrath
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If you consider national gun registries to be extreme, then I am.
I consider them to be unconstitutional, which leads to my opinion that you couldn't care less about the Second Amendment and very likely would see it abolished.
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I just think that gun registries and other regulations is the best way for a sane and responsible person to own just about any gun they want without being a danger to others.
And this is the part where you all but confirm that for me.
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We have a registry for fully automatic weapons that requires an extensive background check. As far as I know, no one on those lists have harmed anyone else with their weapons since instituted.
This is a useless point so long as suppressors and rifles with 15.9" barrels are included in the same "registry."
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:33 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:You consider me to be a child and yourself to be an authority figure?
oppositional defiance
OK
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:34 pm to jimmy the leg
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The depth of his creepiness, however, is being dismissed by you.
I'm not dismissing it. I'm just not interested in going down the conspiracy road to see where it ends.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:37 pm to AggieHank86
quote:I think I have been clear on abortion. I can't possibly imagine what medical conditions could arise late in a pregnancy. I understand that there are some decisions that may come down to the mother or child, but I don't know if that would be considered "abortion", per se.
He doesn't strike me as a "late third trimester abortion is the coolest thing ever" type, either, which is the antipode of "it is 'murder' one second after fertilization."
I don't oppose abortion beyond a certain number of weeks (22+) as long as there are exceptions to brain dead fetuses, the health of the mother, etc. Pretty sure that was standard under Roe as well.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:38 pm to mouton
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No I said she shouldn’t be faulted for not coming forward in response to someone saying if she was raped she should have reported it.
So, she gets an abortion at 10 because she doesn't want dad, brother or uncle to get in trouble. When said perp does it again she gets another at 12 and then at 14. When is it enough and who is held responsible then? That's the problem with this whole "made up" scenario. Too much made about the 10 yo not being able to get an abortion in Ohio and not enough about the "monster" who raped her.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:41 pm to mmcgrath
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Gun rights for sure. Maybe abortion, too. If you consider national gun registries to be extreme, then I am.
You are.
Look at the times in history where the people were disarmed. It hasn’t ended well.
A leftist history lesson:
1911:Turkey; citizens disarmed – 1.5 million Armenians were slaughtered
1929: Russia; citizens disarmed – 20 million Russians murdered
1935: China; citizens disarmed – 20 million Chinese killed (Uighur's not included).
1938: Germany; citizens disarmed – 6 million Jews murdered
1956: Cambodia; citizens disarmed – 1 million “intellectuals” killed
1964: Guatemala; citizens disarmed – 100,000 Mayan Indians massacred
1970: Uganda; citizens disarmed – 300,000 Christians put to death
I get it, you are a hard left goose-stepper, and this is what you want to happen in the USA.
But I will not hesitate to call you out.
I bet that you wish to add America to the above list, as the Democrats take that hard turn to the left.
2022: America; citizens rights restricted. The new laws are used to disarm the law abiding population via lies, coercion, and outright intimidation. Americans that didn’t vote for Biden are jailed or killed.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Many states have gun registries and the federal government maintains one for privately owned fully automatics. Since these have withstood challenges, what makes you think a registry is unconstitutional.
I consider them to be unconstitutional, which leads to my opinion that you couldn't care less about the Second Amendment and very likely would see it abolished.
Saying that you sound more to be in the 2A "shall not be infringed" group than anything else.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:43 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'm just not interested in going down the conspiracy road to see where it ends.
A video (MULTIPLE videos actually) is not a “conspiracy theory.”
It (they) stands on its own accord.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:45 pm to AggieHank86
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You consider me to be a child and yourself to be an authority figure?
I consider myself to be observant.
You wrote it.
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With that assumption, the daughter did not say that he did anything sexual or that he touched her inappropriately, and some folks just worry less about the nudity taboo than others.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:45 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:You clearly are just pulling this crap from reddit and haven't done any independent research. If you did you would know that your list is BS, especially:
You are.
Look at the times in history where the people were disarmed. It hasn’t ended well.
A leftist history lesson:
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1938: Germany; citizens disarmed – 6 million Jews murdered
You would know that German citizens were not allowed to own guns after WW1, but it was largely unenforceable because of the times. The Nazis came along and said everyone but the Jews could own guns, or something to that effect. Not that personal firearms could have stopped the Holocaust.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:47 pm to mmcgrath
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For a ten year old, there are elevated risks even going that route.
So monitor said risks and abort if the pregnancy turns south. Don't tell me you're worried about a late term abortion...
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No doubt. There are zealots who want clean babies who salivate over this scenario, as well as separated children at the border and Russian and Chinese babies. But we aren't here to create a farm of babies for them to choose from.
Good, so setting aside your disgust for parents wanting to adopt babies instead of having them killed, adoption would be a good option.
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Finally, can you imagine the conundrum where the 10 year old lawyers up (probably more lawyers beating down the door than adoptive parents) and demands to keep the baby even though there is no way in hell anyone should allow a ten year old to be a sole guardian for a baby?
Killing people to avoid complicated court cases is certainly one way to solve those sorts of issues.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:49 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:So, we have established that you use the term "oppositional defiance," yet do not understand its meaning.
You consider me to be a child and yourself to be an authority figure?quote:
I consider myself to be observant
quote:I wrote something.
You wrote it. Then you denied writing it.
You incorrectly summarized what I wrote (intentionally, I suspect).
I denied the nonsense that YOU wrote, and confirmed what I ACTUALLY wrote.
There is a difference.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:50 pm to mmcgrath
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The Nazis came along and said everyone but the Jews could own guns, or something to that effect.
How did that work out for them?
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The Nazis came along and said everyone but the Jews could own guns, or something to that effect.
Maybe, maybe not. I would suggest that 1 million armed Jews would have been a formidable group.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:57 pm to AggieHank86
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I denied the nonsense that YOU wrote, and confirmed what I ACTUALLY wrote.
You didn’t confirm shite, but you will by answering the question:
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Are you a fan of showering with a daughter that is old enough at the time to remember it as being “awkward?”
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:58 pm to AggieHank86
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Do you REALLY not see the extent to which you have been manipulated?
Look at HER reaction you moron. You think she recoils for no reason. And then look at his reaction to it.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 2:58 pm to mmcgrath
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Many states have gun registries and the federal government maintains one for privately owned fully automatics.
Don't pivot away from the national gun registry you advocated for.
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Since these have withstood challenges, what makes you think a registry is unconstitutional.
I remember a time before NYSRPA v. Bruen, too. The next few years are going to be great for gun owners.
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Saying that you sound more to be in the 2A "shall not be infringed" group than anything else.
That's because you're apparently incapable of nuance on the topic.
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