re: Can a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion? Ohio says NO

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You act like I am defending a series of actions known to be true. I am simply not willing to assume the truth of some questionable assertions.

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Okay - the assertion is that Joe Biden's daughter has said (written in her diary) that her father took inappropriate showers with her, and that, in part, warped her view of herself and sex, and led her to destructive promiscuity.

What in that are you questioning?

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If we assume these assertions to BE true, I wholly agree that that behavior is extremely questionable

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Which is why I've exchanged posts in this thread with you. You're an attorney, but this isn't a court of law - - - it's okay for us to say, "sure, there's a 25% chance Biden's hand on her breast was accidental, but given his history, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt."

Furthermore, consider this - we're talking about a guy that has lived in the public eye for 50 years, and has people around him whose job is to help shape public perception of him. What does it tell you about the man, that with all the "creepy Joe" shite out there, he would put himself in a position where his hand could "accidentally" grab an 8 yo's breast?

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In the exact same situation, I think you'd do exactly what you've already done. Downplay and deflect.

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The only argument you can make is one where you pretend to know things you simply cannot know. I have a posting history that includes being very critical of Trump. I lay great weight of the Covid disaster at his feet, for example, and have argued that even though the lockdowns/mandates were local, that he funded all the bullshite puts it on him. The notion that I do not consider Trump's comment about his daughter in the same league as Biden showering with his daughter is not because I have a tendency to pull punches with Trump. It's because I happen to believe there is a big difference between sexually exploiting a child and making a creepy comment about an adult daughter.

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Go for it. Did you still vote for him?

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What's the implication here, DB? That someone who voted for a creep rather than a pedophile is applying a double standard?

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Blasey's testimony was UNDER OATH-- that's not acting.

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No. It was perjury.

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But you still supported him, even knowing that he's a creeper.

That's kind of the point.

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So your point is that a creepy comment should be a disqualifier for the presidency?

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I'm still not sure why you keep repeating this. Of course there's a difference.

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Which is why your whole argument is inane.

Trump's comment was creepy. We agree.

Joe Biden showering with his daughter and fondling an 8 yo girl is deviant on a level very different from a creepy comment. We agree.

But somehow I'm applying a double standard.

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there seem to be a LOT of questions about the purported diary

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The New York Times reported a Justice Department probe over the diary in November 2021, and also confirmed that the diary is authentic. There is no question as to authenticity.

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No. My point is that it's hypocritical to bitch about someone supporting a creeper if you also support a creeper.

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I'm not bitching about Joe Biden being a creep. I'm arguing that there's a shitload of evidence that he's a child molester.

Make up your mind, DB. Stop arguing out of both sides of your mouth. Either you believe Biden's actions go way beyond "creep" or you don't. Which is it?

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Sure. But all you've been able to show is that he's a creep. I prefer we stick to what we know, not what you believe.

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So you don't believe the diary is real?

You don't believe the laptop is real?

NC_T - please post the video of Biden's hand moving down over the 8 yo's breast.

Those things aren't my belief's. They are real.

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I've been solidly consistent here.

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Even you don't believe this. And if you really are confused, go read your own posts. Pay close attention to where you make a clear distinction between Biden's actions and Trump's words, and then read the posts where you make an argument tantamount to the opposite.

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So you don't believe the diary is real?

You don't believe the laptop is real?

NC_T - please post the video of Biden's hand moving down over the 8 yo's breast.

Those things aren't my belief's. They are real.

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If there was solid evidence, this wouldn't be limited to truthers and an Australian gossip site.

This is the part where you go full conspiracy and begin to tear down your fragile position.

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Even you don't believe this. And if you really are confused, go read your own posts. Pay close attention to where you make a clear distinction between Biden's actions and Trump's words, and then read the posts where you make an argument tantamount to the opposite.

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Big difference between saying someone is more of a creep, and saying someone is a proven child molester.

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I wonder why.

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You shouldn't.

I directly stated why.

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I think we've finally arrived at the disconnect here.

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Arrived?

One of us has been here the whole time.

Look. Your politics require you to belive this is true. But that's a one-way street for you. That's been the point from the first reply, and all you've done is continue to demonstrate it. Over and over and over again.

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zealots at each extreme of the spectrum

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Derp.

You're such an absolute buffoon.