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re: Can a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion? Ohio says NO
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:05 pm to the808bass
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:05 pm to the808bass
I would suspect if this were on the up and up, the OB-GYN would have found a way to terminate without making any noise about it. It sounds disingenuous
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Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:06 pm to oklahogjr
quote:The court ruled that Roe was valid because of assumed rights they believed existed in the Constitution but didn’t specify exactly where the right to an abortion could be found. They said it was in there “somewhere”.
i'm saying when the supreme court was previously asked where abortion could be restricted they said no it was our right to do so based on these currently on the book laws.
now this time they're saying it's not covered by those laws. so now we need new laws to protect those rights. it's really pretty simple what our next steps should be since the interpretation has changed.
It was a constitutional interpretation, and when the Dobbes ruling occurred, it made a different constitutional interpretation. There was no federal law in place to keep the right to abortion, which is why they’ve been trying to change procedures to get a law passed.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:08 pm to oklahogjr
No law giving anyone the right to abort a child was cited in Roe.
Even your Saint RBG opined on that numerous times.
Even your Saint RBG opined on that numerous times.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:12 pm to KiwiHead
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I would suspect if this were on the up and up, the OB-GYN would have found a way to terminate without making any noise about it. It sounds disingenuous
Lying is the Left's MO.
After Covid BS data, the (reportedly closed) border, unarmed blacks being hunted by cops, Russia, Trump refusing to denounce racists, Hunter's laptop is Russia disinfo, 1/6 attack on democracy, Putin price hikes, etc., etc ... why the f'n hell would anybody ever believe anything from these dishonest and demented assholes?
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:13 pm to AggieHank86
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Out in the real world, you see lots of supporters of abortion rights arguing that you people hate women and want nothing more than to dominate and subjugate them by depriving them of personal autonomy. Pure emotional hyperbole.
That is such a line of shite. You do not actually believe that do you? You can not possibly think that is a legitimate possibility.
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But you do not see those childish arguments here. For the most part, those of us who support some form of abortion rights try very hard to stick to substantive discussion.
You try to provide some example that represents an incredibly small percentage of the reason people have abortions as a reason that all abortions should be allowed. You are trying to justify the killing/dismembering of the innocent.
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So why do so many of you choose to resort to the childish, hyperbolic equivalent arguments from the Right?
I have said repeatedly that one side deserves to be outcasts. The democrats ruin everything they touch. You should always be made to feel wrong and to feel bad for your disgusting opinions. I mean democrats have actually tried to justify the killing of unborn babies. There is no discussion to be had with people like this.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:14 pm to FooManChoo
quote:No.
I think you are trying to avoid the discussion about the poor reasoning behind banning abortions except for instances of rape.
I've had that discussion many, many times. Yours is a religiously held premise which is fine.
Scientifically though, life does not begin at conception. Life predates conception.
Philosophically, humanness or sapience is not a zygotic quality.
Pursuit along any of those courses can be reasoned and parameterized.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:15 pm to AggieHank86
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Far Right incarnation of the Nanny State.
I think you are confusing the left and the right there bud. Every conservative I know is about small government.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:16 pm to mmcgrath
Labor and Delivery Nurse here. A 6 week old fetus cannot be figured out to the exact day of conception.... You can do some math based on the end of the last period, but even that is not reliable for date of conception. Ultrasound is too early to be 100% reliable as well tot he day. This idiot Doctor should have called it 5 weeks and 6 days, or 3 weeks, or whatever, and have done the abortion and been done with it, but called it 6 weeks and 3 days to make a liberal point and use this girl as a pawn for the left in the MSM. This entire story is pure horseshite.
If she is not willing to say who raped her and press charges, then she needs to carry to term and give it up for adoption, as it was not a documented rape and was obviously concensual, even at 10.
If she is not willing to say who raped her and press charges, then she needs to carry to term and give it up for adoption, as it was not a documented rape and was obviously concensual, even at 10.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:16 pm to KiwiHead
quote:Without question!
I would suspect if this were on the up and up, the OB-GYN would have found a way to terminate without making any noise about it.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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Life predates conception.
That's right. And that's why men who look at porn are committing mass murder.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:20 pm to Tigahs24Seven
LINK
It’s a trend. St. Luke’s initially said they wouldn’t provide plan B or treat ectopic pregnancies. Just to stir the pot.
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to make a liberal point and use this …as a pawn for the left in the MSM.
It’s a trend. St. Luke’s initially said they wouldn’t provide plan B or treat ectopic pregnancies. Just to stir the pot.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:20 pm to NC_Tigah
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Is that the normal pattern for 10 year old incest victims?
Depends on the location. My state has specialized facilities for children who have been sexually abused. There are medical personnel with advanced training who provide care in an environment that is less intimidating than a hospital emergency room.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:23 pm to threeputt
quote:Is that your stance if it’s your rape victim pregnant daughter?
Give the baby up for adoption. Two wrongs never equal a right
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:24 pm to AggieHank86
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No, no, no. Big Government is CONSERVATIVE.***
Those evil republicans also pushed to outlaw murder and rape. Bunch of big government assholes.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:24 pm to the808bass
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It’s a made up story. We all know it. Maograth knows it. He’s a willing purveyor of propaganda.
The Prog Left:
Find an issue.
Make up story to support the issue.
Spread story (lie) far and wide.
Goebbels is proud.
This post was edited on 7/2/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:25 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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was obviously concentual, even at 10.
assuming you meant consensual?
if so, it literally under no circumstance ever can be consensual for a 10 year old to have sex. period end of discussion.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:26 pm to Rebel
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No law giving anyone the right to abort a child was cited in Roe.
no but rights to due process and privacy were.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:26 pm to oklahogjr
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they said no it was our right to do so based on these currently on the book laws.
Not true.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:26 pm to Zach
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That's right. And that's why men who look at porn are committing mass murder.
This isn’t the gotcha that you think it is.
Posted on 7/2/22 at 12:26 pm to Tigahs24Seven
quote:I thought about the same thing. Clearly, through a couched new maternal assessment, leading questions as to exact dates of LMP could easily shift EDC forward.
This idiot Doctor should have called it 5 weeks and 6 days, or 3 weeks, or whatever, and have done the abortion and been done with it
But questions of criminality combined with zealotry might have simply elevated the risk index beyond what she was willing to take on.
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