re: Can a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion? Ohio says NO

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I am not going to change my value system based on the worst case scenario.

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Your value system does not dictate law.

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<3% of abortions result from rape, incest, or the mothers health.

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Then the law should address those roughly 5,000 cases, per state, per year, you're referencing.

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No. I'm saying it has happened in the past. Even if this was a gaslight, it is not based on some abstract and impossible hypothetical. If it hasn't already, it predictably will happen. The law is exposed regardless.

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The only thing such a law exposes is poor reasoning. You are making an emotional argument, not a rational one.

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Give the baby up for adoption. Two wrongs never equal a right

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Or charge the rapist with murder.

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ten year old rape victim waited six weeks to get an abortion

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This is the main thing right here

Tell her to take the straw baby out.

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Your value system does not dictate law.

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That’s probably what he was thinking; I’m glad you cleared it up.

A culture’s value system, however, is the major input to law in any sort of government where the people have a voice.

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Shouldn’t have waited so long

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Six weeks? She was ten! How does she know she is pregnant? At that age, if they are having periods they might be 10 weeks apart. That is barbarism. And that kind of barbarism is what will turn the country against the Republicans and yield almost universal access to abortion.

The country will not tolerate a bunch of left-wing cancel-culture tyrants being replaced by right-wing Ayatollahs.

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Why have you never once defended anything on the right and call yourself a republican

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As just the most recent example, I have argued repeatedly that Roe was bad law and should be overturned.

As recently as a week or two ago, I opined that the 2nd Amendment prohibits the feds from limiting access to fully-auto rifles and that the NFA is largely unconstitutional.

i argue against fed overreach and in favor of states rights on SOME issue every week.

Probably 90% of my disagreements with the forum consensus are situations where I argue for individual rights and against the Far Right incarnation of the Nanny State.

Hard to get more Republican than that.

You just don’t hear me, because your ears are full of preconceptions and biases. You have convinced yourself that being a SoCon is the only way to be Republican. While I think that being a SoCon is antithetical in many ways to limited government.

With the level of estrogen and soy in their systems, it’s hard not to be overly emotional to most topics. He probably teared up reading this thread

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I don't think you worded that in the way you'd have liked. But as we both agree the law to be poorly constructed, I agree with what you actually said there. It is poorly reasoned.

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I worded my statement the way I did intentionally.

If the law does not make an exception for rape, then that is consistent with the belief that the pre born child is alive and have inherent value that isn’t removed because someone else doesn’t want them to exist.

What the law exposes is poor reasoning by those who make rational arguments for why abortions are bad in most cases but then use emotional arguments for why rape is an exception.