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re: California recall shows us the future of “elections” in the US

Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:27 am to
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12114 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:27 am to
quote:

Please make it stop ... what evidence do you have that the election in CA was stolen? Oh, Trump said it was.

Look, if there was fraud I want the people thrown in jail. Present some evidence before posting.


Not saying I have any evidence... However the election was neck and neck 1 month ago... Explain a 39 point spread a month later with no fraud...
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 1:33 am to
quote:

Not saying I have any evidence

Then maybe STFU?
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12169 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:11 am to
The lesson of California is how illegal immigration flooded the State and turned it from Republican to Democrat.

The same number of Republicans live in the State now as they did when they elected Reagan Governor then President.

Those Republicans just got overrun with legal and illegal immigrants and the State is now blue.

Same as is happening to the rest of America currently.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
24869 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:19 am to
No one who can look at the state of California and how it is being run can accept that the people actually want this. Most rigged election ever
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42575 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:38 am to
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sending out mail in ballots to everyone on the list

= proof positive that DEMOCRATs welcome election fraud (as long as they control the process)
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26202 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:30 am to
quote:

If they steal this election


Why do people have it in their heads that a Democratic Governor surviving a recall in California is a result of stealing?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26202 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:31 am to
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However the election was neck and neck 1 month ago.


No it wasn’t. Zero election results were available a month ago.

Opinion polling is useless.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14035 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:36 am to
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Why do people have it in their heads that a Democratic Governor surviving a recall in California is a result of stealing?

Did Gavin Newsome survive the recall because of cheating? Probably not

Did the Democrats cheat anyway? Hell yes they did

Why? Because they are Democrats. It’s what they do
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:38 am to
They are pure scum
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:52 am to
If republicans in deep blue states don’t like it they need to move to purple or red states . Republicans in blue states are just wasting their votes and helping the blue states stay a Float.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27471 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:52 am to
You have to beat the Democrats at the lower levels. State Reps and Senators..
Elected judgeships then you can move on to the bigger fish like Congressional districts then statewide.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12747 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:01 am to
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However the election was neck and neck 1 month ago... Explain a 39 point spread a month later with no fraud
The message of the campaign went from how bad a job Newsom was doing to Newsom vs. Elder.

The whole idea (including the media attacks on Elder as as black white supremacist) was to change the messaging away from the horrible job Newsom has done and allow them to play Dem vs. Repub in a heavily blue state.

If the message had stayed on how bad Newsom was, it would have been a lot closer.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5558 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:10 am to
Yahoo put an article out yesterday about the baseless charges of voter fraud being made by republicans

The word baseless… boggles the mind
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98702 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:35 am to
Newsom was always going to prevail.

That doesn't mean there wasn't rampant fraud.
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1044 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:43 am to
Wait, you think ballot harvesting actually involves people going door to door vs not just filling it out in an office and submitting it?
Also, There are 3rd parties that have the white ballot boxes that look just like the county box. You put your ballot that was mailed to you by your party into these boxes.
It would take very little effort to have the political party duplicate these “harvested” ballots, send them to the third party vendor, fill it out, and submit it. And no audits to ensure no double voting.
It really is an impressive system
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30587 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:50 am to
Slowly they took over the system. Now that they are in power, I don’t know if it can be taken back.

It is corrupt top to bottom.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:58 am to
Republicans, just need to learn how to cheat and do it better than the democrats. No one going to stop it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68183 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:02 am to
quote:

Not saying I have any evidence... However the election was neck and neck 1 month ago... Explain a 39 point spread a month later with no fraud
Uhh, polls are shite.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:35 am to
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The recall wasn't stolen... I lived in CA, there are too many actual democrats there.

With that being said, their mail in ballot system makes it impossible for any credible challenge to the single party rule at the state level and allows the margins to be run up in favor of the democrats for national narrative purposes.


One month ago a low level street criminal was arrested with 300 unopened mail in ballots for the election along with multiple driver licenses and credit cards in other people’s name.

Now what is more plausible? He was simply a rouge criminal with an such a great interest in politics that he was willing to everything he could to help his cause? OR, was just one of hundreds, if not thousands "hired" to conduct election fraud at a street level?

Full mail-in voting with minimal to no safeguards is a Democrat's wet dream because it eliminates the one thing they had trouble controlling...turn out. When you can vote by mail you don't have to "turn out". That's why Dems are fighting tooth and nail to prevent any safeguards and elimination of complete mail in voting.

Prior to 2020 the candidates would recruit local "community organizers", pastors, etc to help with the election. The organizers would be paid a significant sum (many times through the church...which made it hard to trace the money). The organizer would then arrange transportation to the polls (busses) and pay members of the community to go vote...most of whom had no intention of doing so otherwise. But they STILL had to go to the poll to vote. Or in other words, "turn out".

The 2020 election changed that. Now they did have to go to the polls. So the community organizers could HARVEST several hundred mail in ballots and vote the exact same way for all of those people. The burden of actually getting them to the polls was eliminated. So where previously maybe you could get 200 of a potential 500 people to the polls, with mail in voting you now got 475 (if not all 500) to "vote"
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:38 am to
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Alt26



Another thing people seem to forget when it comes to mail in balloting is that it eliminates the precinct system.

The precinct system is a safeguard against cheating because there are so many voting precincts. Yeah, you can cheat at one precinct but it won't matter much since its one precinct out of thousands. You would have to take over numerous precincts in order for cheating to have any impact.

But with mail in voting, all the votes are taken to a central processing and counting facility. Which means a bad apple or two counting votes can have a much bigger impact than a bad apple at a single precinct.
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