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California passed a law that could allow babies to be killed up to 28 days AFTER birth.

Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:39 am
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:39 am
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California passed a law that could allow babies to be killed up to 28 days AFTER birth. By using the word “perinatal” (which is the period that includes up to a month after a baby is born) instead of “prenatal” (before birth), the law legalizes infanticide.

Now a similar bill that could effectively legalize infanticide by blocking investigations of infant deaths in Washington has been signed by the governor.

A pro-life bill that would ban infanticide nationally was BLOCKED by Senator Schumer
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:41 am to
Hmm, so what age, after birth, does the babies start to have rights? Very interesting….
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32374 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:43 am to
I think you should give them to at least 12 years old. At that point, you’ll know if they are going to be a contributing member of society or a piece of shite
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:43 am to
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Hmm, so what age, after birth, does the babies start to have rights? Very interesting….


SCOTUS just said they have citizen rights as soon as they clear the vagina.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:44 am to
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California passed a law that could allow babies to be killed up to 28 days AFTER birth

I hope even the PB isn't dumb enough to actually think this is true.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52399 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:45 am to
What's the catch? Has to be a very narrow niche instance of the child is badly suffering and has severe abnormalities that would cause its death, and doctors are in agreement that the life of the child can't be saved with surgery, or the child is born brain dead and is only able to live artificially.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:47 am to
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Hmm, so what age, after birth, does the babies start to have rights? Very interesting….


I've honestly never heard a progressive provide an answer in discussions/debates. It wouldn't matter if they did, their "morality" is subjective and can be modified any time to match whatever demented shite they conceive.

That's the problem with not having an objective morality. Like having a bridge with no side rails, nothing to keep one on the path.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67072 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:47 am to
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I hope even the PB isn't dumb enough to actually think this is true.


It's legit.

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“...actions or omissions with respect to their pregnancy or actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcome, including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death due to causes that occurred in utero.”


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“Causes that occurred in utero” is an extraordinarily elastic legal standard. What doesn’t originate in utero for a newborn? Gestational development, genetic conditions, complications during delivery — almost anything that goes wrong with a newborn can be traced back to conditions that existed before birth. You’d need a medical examiner willing to draw a bright line between pre-birth and post-birth causation, and in practice, that line dissolves under any competent defense attorney’s argument.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:49 am to
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I hope even the PB isn't dumb enough to actually think this is true.

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It's legit.

My hope has dissipated
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67072 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:51 am to
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My hope has dissipated


Yep, the truth has a way of doing that to your beliefs.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47297 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:51 am to
Absolutely wicked. All arguments about "her body" and "it's not a baby but a fetus" (as irrational as they are), are out the window, and the truth has come to light. They just want to kill children as they see fit.

The 28-day time period is also arbitrary. Why not 28 weeks, 28 months, or 28 years after birth at this point? It's murder.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12377 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:54 am to
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(a) Notwithstanding any other law, a person shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability or penalty, or otherwise deprived of their rights under this article, based on their actions or omissions with respect to their pregnancy or actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcome, including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death due to causes that occurred in utero.

The fact you read this to mean "its now legal to kill a 27 day old in California" is....not surprising actually

Congratulations. You are the useful idiot that gets targeted and duped by clickbait media.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 9:55 am
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32160 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:55 am to
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SCOTUS just said they have citizen rights as soon as they clear the vagina.


So killing a pregnant woman is no longer double homocide since the baby hasn't cleared a vagina yet?

Guess they need to change that law with that bullshite ruling.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 9:57 am
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5829 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:56 am to
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California passed a law that could allow babies to be killed up to 28 days AFTER birth.


Umm.. Well that's actual murder...
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
29195 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:57 am to
Well, that's pretty fricking evil
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38802 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:57 am to
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The 28-day time period is also arbitrary. Why not 28 weeks, 28 months, or 28 years after birth at this point? It's murder.



Don't worry, with the ever growing window for abortion and the growing support for "Legally Assisted Suicide," they will basically back door in euthanasia as they always wanted.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117909 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:58 am to
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What's the catch? Has to be a very narrow niche instance of the child is badly suffering and has severe abnormalities that would cause its death, and doctors are in agreement that the life of the child can't be saved with surgery, or the child is born brain dead and is only able to live artificially.

I think I know the catch. A woman has major hormonal changes during pregnancy and immediately after birth. The 'caretaker' chemicals are dominating. If the baby comes out deformed physically or mentally retarded she still wants it. After a month the hormones return to normal and she thinks: 'What the shite have I done.'
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24298 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:59 am to
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SCOTUS just said they have citizen rights as soon as they clear the vagina.

18 U.S. Code § 1111 - Murder
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Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Every murder perpetrated by poison, lying in wait, or any other kind of willful, deliberate, malicious, and premeditated killing; or committed in the perpetration of, or attempt to perpetrate, any arson, escape, murder, kidnapping, treason, espionage, sabotage, aggravated sexual abuse or sexual abuse, child abuse, burglary, or robbery; or perpetrated as part of a pattern or practice of assault or torture against a child or children; or perpetrated from a premeditated design unlawfully and maliciously to effect the death of any human being other than him who is killed, is murder in the first degree.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
83163 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:00 am to
Well that only addressed U.S. citizenship.


States can apply there own homicide laws.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:00 am to
If California indeed passed a law like that it will be invalidated by the US Constitution.
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