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re: California Governor beginning the process of reparations to African Americans

Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129541 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:17 am to
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The law creates a nine-member task force to come up with proposals for how the state could provide reparations to Black Americans


So basically just a slush fund for 9 people
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:17 am to
The state is burning. They can't keep the electricity on. People are already leaving at record numbers. The cost of living continues to skyrocket with no end in sight. And they want to focus on this shite?
Posted by rumination
Member since Jan 2020
778 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:18 am to
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In classic fashion, this board is getting its melts in


You support reparations?

Why would anyone with a logical brain support such a thing in today's time?

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At first blush, it comes across as a great political move: firm up your progressive cred, get a photo op with a civil rights leader, appear to be a real champion of civil rights, label other primary candidates as racists who don’t go along, likely lock up a big chunk of African American voters. So far, so good.

But, as with all complex federal programming, the devil is in the details and a few inconvenient truths.

An initial problem is that, since the 1960s, America has spent well over $1 trillion on “social justice” (you could call it “reparations”), targeting to a large extent African Americans, providing cash payments, housing, food, day care, education assistance, inner-city development, transportation support, business start-up assistance, job training assistance, preference on government contract awards, affirmative action, legal aid, and a host of other programs to overcome disadvantages related to poverty and race.

For over half a century, most Americans have recognized their obligations to fellow Americans historically disadvantaged by racism, and have tried to provide assistance to correct the problem. No other country would dream of this level of social responsibility, fairness and generosity. All Americans should be really proud of their country.

Because of these programs, tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions, of Americans have been moved out of poverty into the middle class, and some to higher levels of American society including CEOs and the American presidency. Are the Democratic candidates or progressive activists even aware of that?

This raises some interesting questions.

First, of course, who would receive the reparations? The answer “descendants of slaves” is problematic. As Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) amply proves, genetic testing can yield complicated results. In any case, genetic testing would be mandatory for the program to work, to make sure that each recipient is a slave descendant, and the money might be doled out based upon the percentage of the genetic makeup that is a slave ancestor. That means the big winners in the program will be Silicon Valley and law enforcement databases that would get a treasure trove of genetic data on all Americans who apply for the program.

Second, of course, is the question of who pays? We could, of course, do some serious testing to determine who are the descendants of slave owners, or just send the whole bill to white Americans. The problem, of course, as Sen. Warren again demonstrates, is that “white” is complicated. And research has shown that others besides whites owned slaves in America. As Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell pointed out, both he and President Obama are descendants of slave owners.

The bottom line is that reparations would need to be paid out of the federal budget. Since social justice programs have lifted many people out of poverty, and some of them now are well off, the program could wind up with many African American taxpayers paying reparations to African American recipients.

Now, some might say “tax the rich,” but of course there are rich African Americans. Others might say “make business pay,” but why penalize business? African Americans own businesses, and black employment levels are at all-time highs. Also, some of the biggest “owners” of businesses are union pension plans with African Americans among the members looking forward to a secure retirement.

Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15431 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:19 am to
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California

I wish they would create their own independent country and secede from the US.

Another country could bomb the shite out of them and they'd try to fight them off with love and psychology. fricking cuckoo birds.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:20 am to
NOT shipping slaves back to Africa when they were freed WAS reparations for Generations of black people that followed.

Insert famous Muhammad Ali quote " here ".
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19522 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:20 am to
This is going to create the biggest Pandora’s box.

The fact that people are literally expecting to sit around and do nothing and get paid for their entire life is unreal.

What sort of mentality are they trying to create?

I am amazed California even keeps working residents
Posted by Kujo
225-911-5736
Member since Dec 2015
6044 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:21 am to
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African Americans don't have to pay income tax for 10 years. Any money they make, they get to keep it for a decade.



Agreed, Incentivize work. If the average working non-AA makes 20% more than the Average working AA, then simply allowing them not to be taxed on the first 50K would be like making what "everyone else" makes.

Then we do the same for women, and then we just remove all income tax to the median income as on ongoing "boost" to help poor people.


In 2017, the top 50% of income earners paid 97% of income tax.

So it's not really a loss at all, even though regardless of what anyone does for someone, if they can't live in a way that makes them an employable asset to someone else....they will forever be a completely hopeless burden.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72481 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:21 am to
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The state is burning. They can't keep the electricity on. People are already leaving at record numbers. The cost of living continues to skyrocket with no end in sight. And they want to focus on this shite?


IKR.. You didn't even mention the ongoing Covid impacts as well..

This is so absurd, but especially after a time like now.

It's time to move on.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:22 am to
What a frickin shite show state.
Posted by wartiger2004
9X National Champions WDE RIP CK
Member since Aug 2011
20033 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:22 am to
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In classic fashion, this board is getting its melts in


It is?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69849 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:23 am to
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California will develop a detailed plan for reparations under a new law signed on Wednesday by Gov. Gavin Newsom, making it the first state to mandate a study of how it can make amends for its role in the oppression of Black people.


California was a free state though...
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58887 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:23 am to
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:24 am to
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In classic fashion, this board is getting its melts in


Pointing out the toxic stupidity of Democrats isn't really a melt, tho'.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19166 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:25 am to
There are so many logistical issues that this will never become a reality beyond the advisory committee is going to get paid as a slush fund
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:25 am to
And, they want to keep people who are now working from home longterm from moving out of state. They are literally using the threat of losing their job to keep people from relocating.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:26 am to
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California was a free state though...

Shhh....
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38977 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:26 am to
The political pandering that goes on in todays world is unbelievable. This guy is literally just trying to buy votes of dumb people.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43162 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:26 am to
No matter how much they give it will never be enough to some. This is just going to open up Pandora's Box and make things a nightmare.
Posted by Loomis
BR
Member since Feb 2011
144 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:28 am to
Get those racist facts and logic out of here
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26295 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:28 am to
Cuckifornia
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