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re: BREAKING: Judge Cannon has denied DOJ's motion for a partial stay and has appointed Dearie

Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75300 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:45 pm to
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None of this is standard.


There have been a number of Special Master cases establishing precedent since Trump was elected. That you aren't aware of them and their potential relevance to this case is the least surprising thing I've read all day.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
126212 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Judge Cannon
Did not kill herself.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:49 pm to
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What’s the word on him? Deep state scum? Or will he be pissed the Constitution was shite on and FISA Court lied to?


Been wondering the same. Trump picked him so can only assume (hope) he did some good vetting this time around. Fingers crossed he has learned.

I hope there is a way to get legal costs recouped on all of these witch hunts. maybe a new law can be put in place one day. Anything to help fight the feds overreach.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86209 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:54 pm to
Probably shite on Russia collusion hoax and Facebook interfering with the 2020 election.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84544 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 7:57 pm to
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Been wondering the same. Trump picked him so can only assume (hope) he did some good vetting this time around. Fingers crossed he has learned.


You and I both know your entire opinion on this will hinge solely on whether he sides with or against Trump
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11689 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:06 pm to
Interesting

quote:

The final FISA warrant against Page was then approved by Dearie on June 29, 2017, enabling 90 more days of surveillance against Page. Neither he nor the other judges who approved the surveillance held a hearing on it.


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112672 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

Interesting

quote:
The final FISA warrant against Page was then approved by Dearie on June 29, 2017, enabling 90 more days of surveillance against Page. Neither he nor the other judges who approved the surveillance held a hearing on it


Think about it...

If this guy has a modicum of ethics or self respect, and sees docs that prove not only that he was duped, but consciously and intentionally duped...might just tilt the thinking
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
23271 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:16 pm to
DOJ playing hide and seek, bigtime.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11689 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:17 pm to
Exactly
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
4433 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:29 pm to
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If this guy has a modicum of ethics or self respect, and sees docs that prove not only that he was duped, but consciously and intentionally duped...might just tilt the thinking

I think that’s their angle.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:40 pm to
hope bill barr didn't swallow his tongue
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:52 pm to
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I don’t believe an interlocutory. ruling can be appealed.

Interlocutory discovery rulings can be appealed.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:53 pm to
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hope bill barr didn't swallow his tongue


Speaking of Bill Barr; maybe Bret Baier can get Barr’s opinion on the matter so he can pimp more book sales.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45901 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:59 pm to
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Trump has to pay costs for special master. Is that standard?


How much does he need? Got my part of the checkbook ready.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3738 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:19 pm to
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swallow his tongue



... yeah, Mr. ruby ridge ...

You suck

the Weds. after Epstein offed himself , you appeared before congress with a cut under your left eye ...
BUT

That Thursday ...
I saw the rooftop guy, SO SORRY the power lines were in the way , plus I stood in the middle of the street and just waved ...

As I said ... you stuck


Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103144 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:25 pm to
Then having read it is a given.

Them having read stuff which was subject to attorney client privilege, executive privilege, etc, and not having that separated out from the investigators kills any legal case out of this due to fruit of the poisoned tree.


While Schiff et all got to see some of what they wanted, this potentially blows up the whole fricking charade by making it impossible to indict Trump, which appears to be the threat they are trying to hold over him.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35574 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:46 pm to
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The Court does not find it appropriate to accept the Government’s conclusions on these important and disputed issues without further review by a neutral third party in an expedited and orderly fashion."

Watch how quickly our nation's top law enforcement entities suddenly "lose" all the documents now.

"We're sorry, we are unable to locate the original, non-redacted papers. I think that was delegated to Jimmy on the fourth floor, but he committed suicide this morning via two shotgun blasts to the back of the head. Again, sorry for the very convenient inconvenience."
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:28 pm to
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The probability of getting appealed is almost zero. I don’t believe an interlocutory ruling can be appealed.


An interlocutory ruling can be appealed with the trial court's consent. However, I'm not sure this isn't a final order. Trump hasn't really filed suit against the US. His "complsint" was just a motion asking for a special master and to stop review of the documents until the master was done. The Judge gave Trump what he asked for with slight modifications.

But I'm not an expert on Federal appeals.

I kind of think the DOJ would be better of not appealing. The judge ha ms ordered the SM to review the documents marked CLASSIFIED first and provide a recommendation. Also has allowed the DOJ to continue investigating storage and transfer of the docs, just not the docs themselves.

I think the classified docs should have been excluded from the ruling. There is no dispute over which documents were marked, and even if Trump declassified them, they cannot be considered his property or covered by privilege
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162878 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 4:10 am to
I was not aware that Judge Aileen took all documents off of the DOJ. Laura and yes I watched even Hannity last night said so.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39711 posts
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:53 am to
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kills any legal case out of this due to fruit of the poisoned tree.


https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/fruit-of-the-poisonous-treewhat-if-everything-the-fbi-took-is-now-considered-this/103732304/
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While Schiff et all got to see some of what they wanted, this potentially blows up the whole fricking charade by making it impossible to indict Trump, which appears to be the threat they are trying to hold over him.
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