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re: Bourbon Street Massacre Route
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:04 am to Grassy1
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:04 am to Grassy1
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Perhaps I should make myself a bit more clear and choose my words better.
Does a government and media who both have a left leaning policy and angle on everything which goes on not have a major hand in this?
When you are in control of government and leave borders open, put most of your effort into prosecuting law abiding citizens i.e. Jan 6 political prisoners, and constantly spin dangerous rhetoric throughout the media "hate crime, radicalized white nationalist Christians, etc" they certainly do have a hand in these situations and are not off limits to needing to be addressed but carry on and continue with your assesment of me as bringing unintelligent conversation with a narrative.
Friend, I appreciate you taking your time to express yourself clearly. I makes conversation much more productive when specific point of views are clearly understood (and arguably, even makes us evaluate our own views when we define them.)
I agree with a lot of your words, but not the key point, which is what in my opinion, this board misses more often than not.
The narrative is Left versus Right. And it does exist in many discussions, but I would argue that it is more of a distraction than the problem.
The true problem is The Establishment that is running this country. Much of The Establishment is "Left", but just as much of it is "Right".
Put simply, The Establishment is a money laundering operation that performs Political Theater. The money that they're laundering is our tax payer dollars AND along with that is the power that gives them to borrow our kids' future dollars.
They LOVE distractions such as NOLA deaths, natural disasters, borders, racism, sexism, etc. As you and I argue about Right/Left, they continue their fleecing of all of us.
The few that stand up for us (like Thomas Massey) and 2016 DTJ need to be duplicated. The rest need to be challenged for their votes, no matter the capital letter behind their name.
I appreciate your time if you read this.
Agreed! To go a tad deeper, there are those disguised as 'republicans' that are for this divide in their very support of the Mitch Mcconells.
Who needs enemies with friends like the republican McConnell caucus of rule?
Then go deeper at the lobbyists and Chamber of commerce, big pharma that rules them.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:25 am
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:05 am to LSU Jax
I was distracted. It happens.
Having barriers on the sidewalk would have helped.
I was really just pointing out that blaming someone for the barriers being repaired right now doesn’t really do much and it wouldn’t have mad a difference.
It would also require way more barriers than what is already there, and you can get to bourbon street from so many different ways
Having barriers on the sidewalk would have helped.
I was really just pointing out that blaming someone for the barriers being repaired right now doesn’t really do much and it wouldn’t have mad a difference.
It would also require way more barriers than what is already there, and you can get to bourbon street from so many different ways
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:10 am to Breesus
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Pretending those missing barriers would’ve solved all this and the radical psychopath would’ve just said: “aw shucks guess I can’t kill they have these barriers at this intersection. I’ll just go home and become a productive member of society now. I also won’t shoot anyone with this rifle I am carrying or detonate these IEDs I already hid. Damn you sidewalk barriers!”
You are 100 percent correct. He drove around the state trooper’s vehicle and rode onto the sidewalk. The barriers don’t extend beyond the sidewalks.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:12 am to Grassy1
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Put simply, The Establishment is a money laundering operation that performs Political Theater. The money that they're laundering is our tax payer dollars AND along with that is the power that gives them to borrow our kids' future dollars.
They LOVE distractions such as NOLA deaths, natural disasters, borders, racism, sexism, etc. As you and I argue about Right/Left, they continue their fleecing of all of us.
The few that stand up for us (like Thomas Massey) and 2016 DJT need to be duplicated. The rest need to be challenged for their votes, no matter the capital letter behind their name.
I appreciate your time if you read this. ?
I agree, 100%
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:16 am to cajunangelle
I disagree on the “borders” take. This was purposely done imo to directly affect the electorate in combination with the census to create a Dem advantage in the HoR. It is clearly working. Trump won in a landslide yet the HoR essentially stayed the same as midterms with no Trump on the ballot.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:20 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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It would also require way more barriers than what is already there, and you can get to bourbon street from so many different ways
A vehicle driving into a crowd is pretty hard to defend against especially when a lot of people are moving around. Take a Saints game when the game is over and people are filing out. There are large waves of people crossing intersections with traffic.
Think of the non parade route side of Orleans for Endymion. There are cars parked on the street and the non parade route side is essentially a river of people an hour or so before the parade. Some terrorist could simply park there the day before and the wait until the street is full. A drunk driver literally did this a couple years ago.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:25 am to cajunangelle
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Why did the FBI lady first say NO TERRORISM?
Not terrorism, but we did find a bunch of IEDs
Cant make this up
Wonder if.she went to Claire's for that classy AF nosering
Posted on 1/2/25 at 9:33 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
A city Dumptruck with sand is an easy way to block a road- and is very cheap to deploy
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The guy would have committed this carnage regardless of what the city had done.
Those barriers being up would’ve made it 1000x more difficult to do the damage he did
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:15 am to monsterballads
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Those barriers being up would’ve made it 1000x more difficult to do the damage he did
Not at all. He would just have chosen a different location.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:23 am to TigerVespamon
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the barriers wouldn’t have made a difference. New Orleans doesn’t have barriers on the sidewalk like other cities
Is this where we point out on the video.....he was not driving on the sidewalk? Or that there are few people on the sidewalks on bourbon street....they are in the street?
The point was, proper planning would have had the new barriers in place before NYE, Sugar Bowl and Super Bowl run of events.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:36 am to trinidadtiger
I remember when (just coincidentally) they turned off all the security cameras at the pentagon. Just another coincidence. I am not saying any of this was intentional. That would be crazy.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:42 am to trinidadtiger
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Is this where we point out on the video.....he was not driving on the sidewalk?
He did drive on the sidewalk to get around the cop car that was blocking street access. But I guess if bollards were there instead of a cop car, the terrorist would have simply kept driving down Canal instead of running people over and shooting indiscriminately at a crowd with his rifle. That seems to be the consensus in this thread.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:50 am to The Maj
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How convenient the barriers were inoperable on one of the biggest party nights of the year
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Almost like the pumps not working for a hurricane...
Or lights in a Super Bowl.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:10 am to Breesus
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Pretending the city did something wrong because they didn’t actively prevent the specific scenario this psycho chose is just stupidity.
That’s ignoring the fact that the city knew they needed bollards there. And then when they really needed them, they didn’t have them.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:30 am to Paddyshack
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How convenient the barriers were inoperable on one of the biggest party nights of the year, with tens of thousands of extra people in town. How lucky for this lone terrorist. Maybe we can park two SUVs to block the street next time.
But he drove on the siiiiidewalk. How could something so tricky ever be predicted? Nothing could've been done. The guy was too crafty.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:39 am to Paddyshack
It would be interesting to know everything LE has on this guy's movements. What is clear is that NOLA has the tools in place to know everyone's movements on the streets around the Qtr with identification likely. Video, phone pings, car pings, etc.
They identified and cleared the 3 men and woman quick so they knew where to go to find them. They know now the guy planted the devices. Where else did he walk around and what time? Did he walk to canal and bourbon and see that opening? Or, was that a last minute opportunity he saw available as he was driving by?
Between the truck tracking device and the LE tools in the Qtr, and the guys phone, I am confident they know his every move since he left Houston by now.
They identified and cleared the 3 men and woman quick so they knew where to go to find them. They know now the guy planted the devices. Where else did he walk around and what time? Did he walk to canal and bourbon and see that opening? Or, was that a last minute opportunity he saw available as he was driving by?
Between the truck tracking device and the LE tools in the Qtr, and the guys phone, I am confident they know his every move since he left Houston by now.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:43 am to TigerVespamon
Who would think to repair these during New Year's instead of before the holidays? Whoever it is needs fired and I didn't see anybody working on them? They probably just made it up.Then fire marshal Bill the Police Chief says they had Police blocking Bourbon but it wasn't. He probably could have done more destruction staying on Canal? We need to find the people all over America that were let through without proper vetting or any contact!
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:46 am to Breesus
quote:Breesus is right on balance here. Everyone wants to fight yesterday's war. Are there reasonable questions to be asked about mistakes that were made or better precautions that could have been taken for EXACTLY this attack? Sure.
They did lock the door. He went in through the window.
Psychopaths looking to murder are going to find a way to do so. Pretending the city did something wrong because they didn’t actively prevent the specific scenario this psycho chose is just stupidity.
Are moslem terrorists hell bent on destruction going to find a way if they want to? OF COURSE.
Both times I went to the Sugar Bowl when LSU won national titles in 2004 and 2008, Poydras was turned - before and after the game - into basically a pedestrian boulevard. There ain't enough bollards or other pretend feel-good mechanisms that are practical OR could prevent a determined bad actor from taking advantage of that situation.
I'm happy to pile on NOLA's pathetic leadership, but this doesn't seem overly fair.
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:50 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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But he drove on the siiiiidewalk. How could something so tricky ever be predicted? Nothing could've been done. The guy was too crafty.
I’ll post this again… The bollards in the middle of Bourbon further down would have prevented him from gaining speed. Plus the sidewalks are full of balcony supports and fire hydrants.
I don’t understand why so many people are making excuses for this incompetence.
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