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re: BOOM! Executive Order draft opens door to antitrust probe of Google, FB, Twit, others

Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:01 am to
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:01 am to
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Yay let’s destroy businesses for political purposes! TRUMP


Businesses didn’t make cakes for gays and y’all were all for suing the hell out of them and burying them in court. Now you want to defend a business for discriminating because they are in line with your viewpoint??? You lose all credibility. It’s fun wielding the power of gvt when it’s your guy in power and sucks when it’s the other guy huh? We warned you not to go down that path but you arrogant pricks thought she’d never lose.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8373 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:02 am to
This is a terribly dangerous precedent, and one that seems to be on dubious grounds.
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they are CLEARLY stepping over antitrust boundaries
In what way exactly? My understanding of antitrust laws is that they are prinarily designed to prevent collusion amoungst firms and limit monopoly power. Firms choosing to omit some subset of their potential customer base doesn’t seem to fit into those objectives.

This feels like it has the potential to turn into “show me the firm and I’ll show you the crime”. And I sure as shite don’t want to give democrats that gun for when they eventually come back into power.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14352 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:02 am to
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Politics can open our Border to invasion...and it put Jesus on the cross.
link?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21953 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:02 am to
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Why are we celebrating more regulation of industry?


It's not more regulation (new regulations) its enforcement of current regulations.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:03 am to
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Businesses didn’t make cakes for gays and y’all were all for suing the hell out of them and burying them in court. Now you want to defend a business for discriminating because they are in line with your viewpoint??? You lose all credibility. It’s fun wielding the power of gvt when it’s your guy in power and sucks when it’s the other guy huh? We warned you not to go down that path but you arrogant pricks thought she’d never lose.

if you want a better example:

you were silent when Congress wanted to investigate FB and how Russia used it to meddle in the election

keep it directly on point
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:04 am to
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It's not more regulation (new regulations) its enforcement of current regulations.


I'm not convinced under the current laws you can pick out a company just because it discriminates against an ideology.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:05 am to
the issue here is picking out a company based on its market share
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:09 am to
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the issue here is picking out a company based on its market share


I get it, but I don't think anyone here is really worried that much about market share.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51131 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:12 am to
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you were silent when Congress wanted to investigate FB and how Russia used it to meddle in the election


We already have a special council investigating Russian interference into the election.

Regardless, this monopoly investigation could help limit that ability to influence as a side effect.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51818 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:12 am to
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prevent collusion amoungst firms and limit monopoly power.



Isn't that exactly what they did to Gab?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21953 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:12 am to
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I get it, but I don't think anyone here is really worried that much about market share.


If they're not apart of this investigation why do you seem so concerned about it?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30190 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:13 am to
Proggies are you loving that big government Dick now that it’s going in dry on you? Why you not so fond of massive government power now? Perhaps because you are the one getting split in two?
Now you know how the business owners and producers of this country feel and have felt for the last 50 years. Enjoy your rogering, I hope it hurts...bad.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 8:14 am
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40886 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:13 am to
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The default today is to look at people sideways if they aren’t on it.



I've never been Fackebook. I was never on Myspace either.

Anonymous posting has always been the preferred choice.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9546 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:14 am to
These platforms, especially Google, have already stated that they do not purposely exclude content due to political affiliation... it's all about user relevance.

These platforms, again Google mainly, have an overwhelmingly large control of the market.

No issue there, but controlling that large of the country's information flow comes with responsibilities. And if the administration has enough evidence to warrant a look into the practices of these companies, then I'm not opposed.

Not saying it's true, but imagine the possibility that the Dems bribed one or multiple people at Google to alter results in their favor. What if there's something bigger going on here? It's definitely worthy of being looked at.

This would be companies presenting themselves as unbiased to the public, all while acting to undermine a particular political party and influence people's thoughts.

Let them look into it if there's enough evidence... but actual regulation is tricky. If found true, I'd more support Google and others needing to publically disclose the bias.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:15 am to
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And I sure as shite don’t want to give democrats that gun for when they eventually come back into power.


Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:15 am to
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Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:20 am to
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you can directly target specific individuals and cater specific ads for them. your GOP type gets a MAGA as frick ad. your union type gets a "dey took ur jubs!" ad. your moderate DEM gets an extremist HRC ad. your extremist DEM gets a moderate HRC ad.
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So any website that uses targeted advertising protocols is susceptible to direct federal government oversight?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:21 am to
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Amazon is next


Why? Because you do not like them?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30190 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:21 am to
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of antitrust laws is that they are prinarily designed to prevent collusion amoungst firms and limit monopoly powe


Federal Trade Commissions Act covers unfair practices and arrangements. Together with the Sherman Act, these laws make up the bulk of our antiTrust laws. Designed to keep business practicing freely and competitively.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:22 am to
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Because it has FAR more influence on US elections than a few Russian meme bots.



Yes advertising and social media tends to sway public opinion. But the ability to sway public opinion cannot be the barometer for federal government intrusion into business right?
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