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re: BOOM! Executive Order draft opens door to antitrust probe of Google, FB, Twit, others

Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:56 am to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 8:56 am to
I don't see how Google is a monopoly, but Facebook and Twitter, yeah.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:00 am to
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Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:03 am to
Google should just route all searches originating from the White House to a special landing with only positive, glowing articles about trump.

Problem solved!
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20663 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:10 am to
I think the outright internet banning Alex Jones has people noticing.

Jones is just a wack conspiracy theorist right, he believes in gay frogs.

So then why scrub him for the net? He is already marginalized as a sensationalist conspiracy theorist. So who is next? Shapiro, Crowder, Rogan?

Once this is set how would you prevent the banning of conservative politicians?
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:14 am to
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Google should just route all searches originating from the White House to a special landing with only positive, glowing articles about trump.

Problem solved!


Oh yeah, because that’s what this is all about.

Real deep thinker here.

He’s actually trying to solve an issue with potentially massive implications in the future, without ANY precedent to come before it. See my post on the previous page
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 9:15 am
Posted by SquirrelyBama
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:14 am to
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Posted by cajuncarguy
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:16 am to
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You do not demand that the government transform a company because you do not like its policies.


Oh hell why not? You don't destroy a good man's reputation because you don't like his politics or even know his politics.

A new day is coming and you won't like it at all.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:17 am to
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Yay let’s destroy businesses for political purposes! TRUMP


This gets a lot of downvotes, but can you imagine this board’s reaction if Obama had done something similar? I don’t know.... like using the IRS to target political opposition groups?

This small gov’t Rs are a fricking joke.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:27 am to
Thank you, have been weighing this conundrum a long time now.

At some point this is going to have to be worked out, seeing as how we’re rapidly progressing into an internet based culture.

Think about in 10-20 years when we are just about at the equivalent of everyone having a WiFi receiver in their head; social media has become more of a VR experience and you hang out with friends in real time, every transaction is via the web, our cars are connected and most likely driving / guiding themselves with it, and we can receive news and info at any time, anywhere, without a device.

Do we REALLY want 1 or 2 companies, with a penchant for pushing political (or ANY) beliefs on its users, to own a majority of that? The power and influence the leaders at those companies would hold would be as great or greater than the president or any of our elected leaders. That’s why something has to be done about them silencing the political and market competition soon, but effectively.

IMHO this is a totally unique issue that doesn’t fall into the previously established antitrust or monopoly rulings.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 9:32 am
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:28 am to
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if those platforms are violating rights of conservatives


You have a right protected by the federal government to have your opinion hosted and unfiltered on a social media website? Where is that right listed?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20663 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:33 am to
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You have a right protected by the federal government to have your opinion hosted and unfiltered on a social media website? Where is that right listed?
The first one.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20667 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:35 am to
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If you run a business and you can't understand the impact that Social Media has you are either willfully ignorant or fricking stupid.




I guess. As far as I know, while Twitter and Facebook are selectively choosing which political opinions to promote (which I do have a problem with) I have yet to see evidence that they are selectively targeting non-political advertising from conservative businesses and promoting liberal businesses instead.

You cannot demand federal government Bureaucracy be created because a social media platform aligns it self with a political party you do not agree with in my opinion. And no one has yet to explain why that should be so.

Eventually the Progressives will get back into office. Do we want to have set them up with the tools to regulate these platforms? I do not think so.

As for me being "willfully ignorant or fricking stupid". I am not. I advertise on social media. I ran a business before social media rose to prominence in American Culture. I run one now and I'll still be running one if social media implodes on itself.

I do not understand the vitriol and insults my opinions are met with. All I asked was to have a discussion about what makes social media so important. 2 or 3 people gave me good answers. At least 10 of you decided to just make unnecessary inflamatory comments.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20667 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:36 am to
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The first one.


The first amendment is a protection against government suppression or criminal persecution for your speech. It is not a cart Blanche right to be able to say whatever you want wherever you want to say it.

Facebook and Twitter are not the government and them deciding to delete your post is not a violation of your first amendment rights.

How do you argue that it is?
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 9:38 am
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:37 am to
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Standard Oil was a private business too...





And? Were they refusing to allow liberals to buy gas?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:39 am to
Alphabet and Amazon need to be broken up and it has absolutely zero to do with what Trump said
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:41 am to
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I would love for someone to rationally explain to me how Facebook is important enough





Bc it has become the lifeblood of human interaction and information. It tracks people via location, tracks their information, and plays on brain chemistry through self affirmations. It is a bigger tool of control than people realize.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266189 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:46 am to
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The first one.


This isn't a first amendment situation.

In fact, government acting on their discrimination is a first amendment violation.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21157 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:47 am to
I find it hilarious that the same people that think monopolies are bad when talking about social media, but are ok when talking about ISP's and net neutrality.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21157 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:48 am to
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Bc it has become the lifeblood of human interaction and information. It tracks people via location, tracks their information, and plays on brain chemistry through self affirmations. It is a bigger tool of control than people realize.


Or, you could just cancel it altogether.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:48 am to
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You have a right protected by the federal government to have your opinion hosted and unfiltered on a social media website? Where is that right listed?
The first one.

Idiot
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