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re: Bongino Tells Trump to Not Pay Bail
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:39 pm to momentoftruth87
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:39 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:
This is another reason I don’t want Ron. Ron doesn’t have the base, funds, or connections that trump has when it comes legally and politically.
Its sweet to hear how much you care about Ron's well being
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:40 pm to BigTigerJoe
quote:Yes.
Is Obama (the man) just a private citizen?
quote:I have never suggested that SS protection be "pulled" from any former President ... only that it is not the role of the Secret Service to interfere with state or local law enforcement vis-a-vis ANY former President.
Maybe (Obama) needs his Secret Service detail pulled, too.
quote:A sitting POTUS has immunities that a former POTUS does not. You should research the issue. It would doubtless be informative for you.
Trump is entitled to the full protection as a POTUS
quote:A Presidential candidate is NOT immune from state or local prosecution, whether we are talking about some minor, 3rd-party candidate or (gasp) Donald Trump. Otherwise, any alleged criminal could avoid prosecution simply by holding a press conference and announcing his candidacy.
Trump is running for the Presidency
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:47 pm to geauxbrown
Something needs to change.....Bongino is on fire today telling his audience not to comply with the latest renewal of the mask mandates in some areas.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:49 pm to momentoftruth87
I agree
Let it happen
They can't jail him
Let it happen
They can't jail him
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:51 pm to hogcard1964
quote:
They can't jail him
Why?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:52 pm to TDTOM
quote:
How would the secret service handle this?
By fully complying with a lawful arrest warrant.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:54 pm to Indefatigable
Ss won't allow it
Posted on 8/22/23 at 1:55 pm to geauxbrown
I could see it helping . If they actually arrest him and put him in jail without being able to convict it would be a horrible look for the deep state.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:01 pm to geauxbrown
I like Bongino. I believe him to be genuine. His suggestion is certainly an interesting perspective.
I do believe that BIG GUBMENT would love to make a show of arresting Trump. On the other hand, I do believe they are fully aware that they would be outfoxed by the fox in some form or fashion.
I do believe that BIG GUBMENT would love to make a show of arresting Trump. On the other hand, I do believe they are fully aware that they would be outfoxed by the fox in some form or fashion.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:01 pm to hogcard1964
quote:
Ss won't allow it
Why? What is the basis for that belief?
The idea that a SS protectee cannot be incarcerated as matter of course is just absurd. Plenty of prisons at the federal level have the ability to set up administrative segregation like the SS would require.
Do I think it is likely? Obviously not. If Trump is convicted, the government and Trump's lawyers will reach a deal to avoid actual prison time.
But its not some categorically impossible thing.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:06 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
A sitting POTUS has immunities that a former POTUS does not. You should research the issue. It would doubtless be informative for you.
What did your extensive research tell you about crimes that are alleged to have occurred while the individual was a "sitting POTUS"? Outline the history of attempted state charges brought against the 43 people who have held the office before this guy and how those all played out.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:07 pm to Indefatigable
You almost understand it.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:07 pm to AggieHank86
You dolt; he is not just an ordinary citizen. He is a former president and, thus, has SS protection.
I would worry too much about this evil gov't to pull an Epstein on him.
I would worry too much about this evil gov't to pull an Epstein on him.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
What did your extensive research tell you about crimes that are alleged to have occurred while the individual was a "sitting POTUS"?
The fact that the alleged crimes occurred during his term in office does not magically allow him to avail himself of protections afforded only to the current POTUS. No research required.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:10 pm to hogcard1964
quote:
You almost understand it.
Saying that Trump will not go to prison because of practical reality is not the same thing as saying that Trump cannot go to prison.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:12 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
The fact that the alleged crimes occurred during his term in office does not magically allow him to avail himself of protections afforded only to the current POTUS. No research required.
Why?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:13 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:You seem to think that the UCEA does not apply to a former President, just because no former President has ever gotten himself indicted in the past.quote:What did your extensive research tell you about crimes that are alleged to have occurred while the individual was a "sitting POTUS"? Outline the history of attempted state charges brought against the 43 people who have held the office before this guy and how those all played out.
A sitting POTUS has immunities that a former POTUS does not. You should research the issue. It would doubtless be informative for you.
You are mistaken. There is nothing in the UCEA that says "except for former Presidents."
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:14 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
Why? What is the basis for that belief?
Broadly speaking, a majority of people on this board believe that Trump's SS detail is essentially his own, personal cartel militia like entity.
The reality is that if the SS is presented with a legal arrest warrant, Trump will be arrested. He'll be guarded by the SS during the arrest and jailing, but he'll be arrested all the same.
The idea Bongino presents is that SS protection requirements will be more than the county authorities will be able or willing to deal with.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:14 pm to Indefatigable
Maybe, but you're still having a moist fantasy about something that won't happen.
Ever
Ever
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/22/23 at 2:19 pm to geauxbrown
The bail requirement seems to be an indication the politics of this case runs all the way through the judge. Seems the judge would have the authority to say no to bail and to booking ... Especially if the arraignment hearing is not until September.
Seems the judge is letting the DA run his courtroom.
Seems the judge is letting the DA run his courtroom.
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