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re: Body Cam Footage of MN Shooting

Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Should I feel bad for not feeling bad?
You don't feel bad that a LEO has a killing on her conscience that she didn't want?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:08 pm to
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You just can't shoot someone w/o the presence of that threat (weapon) or officer in danger of being struck by vehicle/pulled away while being partially in vehicle.


Don't think you're right on this.

Someone with a warrant for a weapons charge who is actively resisting and reaching in a vehicle is a clean shoot IMO.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Exactly. This is the fundamental problem with women on the police force. Police work ultimately means forcing compliance from the non-compliant, and this often comes down to physical force. If you are a dainty middle aged woman demanding a 300lb buck to lay down and he just laughs you off, what is your move? Weapons. Ironically, it makes law enforcement more lethal to have women.
Any data to back this up other than anecdotally glomming on to an extreme outlier event?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127380 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
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...come on dude.
Come on nothing. The media is advancing a narrative not the truth. If he had managed to shoot all three police officers they would have focused on the fact he was white.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
fricking idiot cop.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89128 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:09 pm to
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I did this for 25 years, how much experience do you have in this field ?


DO you think that changes what you're doing?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127380 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:10 pm to
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I did this for 25 years
Respect.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6078 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Tazers are not sufficient for stopping this kind of threat.


Interesting alternate reality hypo: she didn’t scream “taser taser taser” and instead shot him while he was fighting and reaching for the unknown in his vehicle. In both scenarios, he’s doing the same thing and gets killed. Only one scenario makes her look undertrained and negligent.
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Any data to back this up other than anecdotally glomming on to an extreme outlier event?




"being stronger is better than being weaker"

Do yOu hAvE anY dAtA tO suPpoRt thAt?!?!
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:11 pm to
Yeah if she just kept her mouth shut and shot him, she would actually probably be in a better spot.

Unironically
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14122 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:11 pm to
oNlY cOpS nEeD gUnS
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4443 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:11 pm to
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..other cops are lucky they didnt catch a bullet too


I was thinking the same thing. She was waving that all around while the other officer was between her and the perp.

Shame that so many are so stupid. Kid, just take the ticket and maybe a little jail time. If you have a warrant, why the hell are you driving with expired tags. Jesus.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:11 pm to
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female officer pulled weapon instead of tazer


He should've complied and she should've never been allowed to be a cop
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:11 pm to
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She fricked up by using the wrong equipment (e.g. service pistol versus taser). She absolutely should be held accountable for that.

Agree. Resisting arrest isn't a death sentence. We have to many laws and poorly trained police forces armed to the teeth. It's a recipe for disaster
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19465 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Don't think you're right on this.

Someone with a warrant for a weapons charge who is actively resisting and reaching in a vehicle is a clean shoot IMO.




You are guessing about reaching into the vehicle. He did get back in and try to escape. If it were a one on one you def. pull your weapon b/c it could escalate to deadly force in a half second. The fact that there were 3 officers the deployment of the tazer was the right call. Problem was she was not up to the task.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33593 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:12 pm to
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until black people teach their children to comply with law enforcement.
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:12 pm to
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You just can't shoot someone w/o the presence of that threat (weapon) or officer in danger of being struck by vehicle/pulled away while being partially in vehicle.


Lady cop: Hold my tazer bruh...

Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11611 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Someone with a warrant for a weapons charge who is actively resisting and reaching in a vehicle is a clean shoot IMO.


This.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Someone with a warrant for a weapons charge who is actively resisting and reaching in a vehicle is a clean shoot IMO.

Shouting taser repeatedly while doing it kinda fricks up that defense.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110921 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Problem was she was not up to the task.



The sad thing is, she has more chance of facing serious criminal repercussions than the people responsible for putting her in that position.
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