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re: Black pastor is handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:37 pm to Harlan County USA
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:37 pm to Harlan County USA
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This isn't a good reflection of Childersburg.
I don’t see why it’s a reflection on an entire town.
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Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:41 pm to AMS
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best boot lickin behavior.
You seem to be an expert on boot licking -
what is your preferred technique?? = do you ever get to the sole?? = do you motor boat??
= special attention to the straps?? = does the color make a difference?? = any aftertaste??
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:44 pm to Flats
I don't think it is either. I was conveying how the Chief felt. He thinks by him resigning, the bad press will go away.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:46 pm to ChineseBandit58
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You seem to be an expert on boot licking -
what is your preferred technique?? = do you ever get to the sole?? = do you motor boat??
= special attention to the straps?? = does the color make a difference?? = any aftertaste??
your projection is stunning.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:47 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Lots of cops don’t understand the law. Gets them into trouble. Dude is watering flowers. Wouldn’t take much to verify that he’s the neighbor. Sheesh.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:52 pm to the808bass
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When it’s obvious the guy is a neighbor watering the bushes, go back to fighting crime.
Cops have a problem with just walking away without having the last word or giving some bullshite instruction.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:52 pm to Bham Bammer
quote:Yeah. Pretty simple had he cooperated.
Dude is watering flowers. Wouldn’t take much to verify that he’s the neighbor. Sheesh.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:58 pm to Diamondawg
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Yeah. Pretty simple had he cooperated.
I mean he told them who he was, why/what he was doing what he was doing.
it wasn't until cops started demanding ID which they had no authority to demand that he was uncooperative. your rights are only rights if you can use them, the cops overstepped their authority because he didn't waive his rights. then they fabricated an obstruction charge and created consequences for the pastor acting within his rights.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:59 pm to Diamondawg
It would’ve been simple without him cooperating.
“Oh, Mrs 911 caller, now that you see him up close you know he’s friends with the homeowner and now that we’ve verified that the ‘suspicious car’ in the driveway is in fact the homeowner’s car, we will be on our way.”
“Oh, Mrs 911 caller, now that you see him up close you know he’s friends with the homeowner and now that we’ve verified that the ‘suspicious car’ in the driveway is in fact the homeowner’s car, we will be on our way.”
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:04 pm to the808bass
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“Oh, Mrs 911 caller, now that you see him up close you know he’s friends with the homeowner and now that we’ve verified that the ‘suspicious car’ in the driveway is in fact the homeowner’s car, we will be on our way.”
how can you expect cops to waste time and resources with rigorous investigations when there are boots needing a good lick?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:04 pm to CU_Tigers4life
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neighbor asked him to look after his shrubbery while he was out of town.
This requires special skills that not just anyone possesses.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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So. fricking. What.
Not breaking the law doesn't mean he wasn't being a jackass.
So, he was being a jackals. Being a jackass is not a crime. Cops are supposed to arrest people for committing crimes.
Thus, he should not be arrested for being a jackass. Yes or no?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:05 pm to AMS
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I mean he told them who he was, why/what he was doing what he was doing.
it wasn't until cops started demanding ID which they had no authority to demand that he was uncooperative. your rights are only rights if you can use them, the cops overstepped their authority because he didn't waive his rights. then they fabricated an obstruction charge and created consequences for the pastor acting within his rights.
There's a lot here that will be perfectly fine with this;
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:06 pm to AMS
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your rights are only rights if you can use them,
A lot of people either don’t understand this or admittedly just don’t care. If a cop can’t deal with an a-hole, whether the man actually was or not, without arresting them just for failure to respect their authority then they don’t need to be cops. I’ve seen videos of cops doing just that, with some bobble-head screeching at them about racism or whatever. Smiling and telling them to have a nice day is correct and more effective. If the guy WAS fishing for a lawsuit why give him the satisfaction?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:07 pm to novabill
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So, he was being a jackals.
I agree.
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Thus, he should not be arrested for being a jackass. Yes or no?
Of course not. I didn't make that claim.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:03 am to AMS
quote:100% correct. He explained why he was there and then refused to id so they cuffed him for exercising a constitutional right. Cops hate people doing that. The fact that they STILL arrested him after verifying he was legit just proves how little they respect constitutional rights. Of course their bullshite charge was dismissed but in their minds they taught this little citizen a lesson and apparently many on here feel that sort of "serve and protect" is acceptable.
it wasn't until cops started demanding ID which they had no authority to demand that he was uncooperative. your rights are only rights if you can use them, the cops overstepped their authority because he didn't waive his rights. then they fabricated an obstruction charge and created consequences for the pastor acting within his rights.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:10 am to CU_Tigers4life
I have no clue where some of you are getting your opinions on this if you watched the video.
-If the police don't investigate a call and just walk away and the house gets robbed, then they can get in trouble with supervisors, the homeowner, etc.
-All the pastor had to do was show ID and keep watering the plants. That way, if something happened, then they had the ID of the person whom they left on the property.
-The pastor started the confrontation - NOT the officers. The officers were very polite.
-The pastor cannot claim that he did what he did because he was scared (based on over-reporting by the lying "media"; otherwise, he would not have acted like such an arse and just showed his ID.
Some of you are as bad as the left in blaming the cops based on a few bad cops. My father gave me the "talk" that Blacks often say white people don't have to give their kids: do what the cops say and, if they cops are wrong in the end, then you are still alive to address it later.
-If the police don't investigate a call and just walk away and the house gets robbed, then they can get in trouble with supervisors, the homeowner, etc.
-All the pastor had to do was show ID and keep watering the plants. That way, if something happened, then they had the ID of the person whom they left on the property.
-The pastor started the confrontation - NOT the officers. The officers were very polite.
-The pastor cannot claim that he did what he did because he was scared (based on over-reporting by the lying "media"; otherwise, he would not have acted like such an arse and just showed his ID.
Some of you are as bad as the left in blaming the cops based on a few bad cops. My father gave me the "talk" that Blacks often say white people don't have to give their kids: do what the cops say and, if they cops are wrong in the end, then you are still alive to address it later.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:15 am to AMS
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it wasn't until cops started demanding ID
Demand or ask (initially)?
de·mand
[d?'mand]
NOUN
an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right:
quote:
they had no authority
Right or not, why not just comply to be a good guy - not an arse?
It is not as if they were "demanding" him to wash their car.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:25 am to CU_Tigers4life
FFS, he admitted he didn't live there early on. He wasn't breaking in or doing anything violent or destructive. The cop asked for his ID and he declined.
His options - at that point, were to go home or go home and get his ID and come back. Once the cops are involved, they HAVE to document who, what, when, where and why. If he had simply walked across the street, showed them his ID and thanked them for watching out for the community, NOTHING would have been made of it.
It wasn't racism. We have fallen pretty far in this country when this is commonplace (and I'm sure it is). Thankfully, this one didn't escalate further.
His options - at that point, were to go home or go home and get his ID and come back. Once the cops are involved, they HAVE to document who, what, when, where and why. If he had simply walked across the street, showed them his ID and thanked them for watching out for the community, NOTHING would have been made of it.
It wasn't racism. We have fallen pretty far in this country when this is commonplace (and I'm sure it is). Thankfully, this one didn't escalate further.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 7:29 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:27 am to AUauditor
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Right or not, why not just comply to be a good guy - not an arse?
They had what they needed to determine he wasn't a criminal. Being an arse isn't a crime.
He wasn't legally obligated to show his ID.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 7:28 am
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