- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Black pastor is handcuffed for watering his neighbor's flowers
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:31 am to Bham Bammer
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:31 am to Bham Bammer
quote:
Wouldn’t take much to verify that he’s the neighbor.
Like an ID? Pastor wanted it to escalate so he could sue.
2
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:05 am to HonoraryCoonass
Cool..200+ posts.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:07 am to HonoraryCoonass
quote:
Like an ID? Pastor wanted it to escalate so he could sue.
The ID he wasn't legally obligated to show them?
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:24 am to AUauditor
quote:
-If the police don't investigate a call and just walk away and the house gets robbed, then they can get in trouble with supervisors, the homeowner, etc.
They investigated Discovered who he was and why he was there..
quote:
-All the pastor had to do was show ID and keep watering the plants. That way, if something happened, then they had the ID of the person whom they left on the property.
He’s not required.. cops are sworn to uphold the very document that allows him to refuse
quote:
-The pastor started the confrontation - NOT the officers. The officers were very polite.
He told them who he was and why he was there.. he’s not required to be polite
Quit fricking defending cops who violate peoples rights. It’s that simple
Cops have this odd thing about ID engrained into their very being that needs to be removed
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:25 am to AMS
quote:
boots needing a good lick
geez - you are really fixated on the boot licking
Can you point out on this doll where the bad man touched you??
really - you need help - I will leave you alone now. you are in my prayers - get help
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:31 am to LordSaintly
quote:
Like an ID? Pastor wanted it to escalate so he could sue.
quote:That varies... on state and interpretation.
The ID he wasn't legally obligated to show them?
I don't know about Alabama but LA does have a stop-and-identify law. So, if this had been in LA, because they did receive a complaint and were investigating whether a crime was afoot they could've demanded he identify himself.
However... what is debatable (again knowing what I know about LA):
- whether that required he show ID OR just give name/address (at which time they would have radioed it in and received a physical description and, most importantly here, an address. They would have used to physical description and address comparison in lieu of ID to verify his veracity.
- is also debatable whether they can ask for the ID... the literal physical object because it implies a demand. Probably so, because LEO can always ask for you to voluntarily consent. Just can't demand without probable cause.
So if Bama has stop-and-identify law, they certainly can ask he identify himself and hold him in place, safely, until verified. It is that method of identifying himself that's in question.
ETA: and damn right being an a-hole, offending someone, or being impolite is not a crime. Just remember, LEO or in general, A) that cuts both ways- you get what you give; it is also not illegal for LEO to be rude either and B) while perfectly legal, it does have consequences; that also cuts both ways for perp and LEO. I'm a certified a-hole. I have experience with this.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 8:36 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:35 am to TROLA
I still can't believe how many people on here still take up for and worship the police after what we saw during covid all over this country.
You think those mother frickers are on your side even if you did nothing wrong? Think again
You think those mother frickers are on your side even if you did nothing wrong? Think again
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:10 am to Ace Midnight
quote:which is why after they verified he was not doing anything criminal, they still arrested him for a bullshite secondary charge right?
His options - at that point, were to go home or go home and get his ID and come back. Once the cops are involved, they HAVE to document who, what, when, where and why. If he had simply walked across the street, showed them his ID and thanked them for watching out for the community, NOTHING would have been made of it.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:38 am to GWM
so you have to be polite and alwasy respectful of cops...
SUCH bullshite
SUCH bullshite
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:40 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
which is why after they verified he was not doing anything criminal, they still arrested him for a bullshite secondary charge right?
I think they were trying to make some sort of point and the charge (if it isn't already gone) will be dismissed. They didn't have to arrest him, but he did push them to. He wanted to get arrested.
I'm not sure he should benefit from this.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:43 am to hawkeye007
quote:
so you have to be polite
You SHOULD BE polite to everybody. I rarely have interactions with police, but the few times I have I was nice, they were nice, no problems.
But we give them a lot of power, and in return they should de-couple their ego from their job. Being an a-hole isn't illegal and nobody should be arrested for it.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:47 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
I'm not sure he should benefit from this.
It would be more beneficial if the cops were given a deterrent as opposed to him getting a reward. We don't want to reward his behavior, we want to discourage theirs.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:48 am to Midtiger farm
quote:
I still can't believe how many people on here still take up for and worship the police
You don't have to side with police to be opposed to the actions of the "pastor."
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:51 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:heaven forbid someone assert a constitutional right.
opposed to the actions of the "pastor."
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 10:52 am
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:52 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
conditional right
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:15 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Yeah you're pretty much done here
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:40 am to AUauditor
quote:
All the pastor had to do was show ID and keep watering the plants
That's not how the law works.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 11:43 am to Flats
quote:
It would be more beneficial if the cops were given a deterrent as opposed to him getting a reward. We don't want to reward his behavior, we want to discourage theirs.
I don't disagree.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 12:35 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
Yeah you're pretty much done here
You were done before you jumped in.
Next time, try following the discussion.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 2:47 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:your contribution has devolved to nitpicking the autocorrect on my phone. I'd say you're pretty much done yeah.
You were done before you jumped in.
Next time, try following the discussion.
Page 11 of 13
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News