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re: Bill's Hamlin had a Cardiac Arrest

Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6841 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:09 am to
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He had a 200lb man lower his shoulder right into his chest at speed.




Strange how the pussification of football made guys change the way they tackle!!
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9645 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:10 am to
Ohhhh so because everyone that got it hasn’t had heart trouble we should just dismiss all concerns and studies that show an increase in myocarditis in those that have taken the shot. By your rationale because everyone that smokes hasn’t developed cancer we should dismiss all concerns that it can cause it. Derp. Go get another booster.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9645 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:12 am to
Still waiting on those links to people wishing death on him…
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118788 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:12 am to
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I'm getting tired of all of the baseball comparisons.


Because it happens in baseball, especially little league a lot more than other sports.

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Football players wear equipment that absorbs and distributes the impact over a larger surface area.



That's how it suppose to work in theory and probably works that way MOST of the time. In fact if the same play happened exactly the same way and the only thing that was different was his heart was not going through a relaxation part of the cardiac cycle when the force was applied everything would be fine.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 11:15 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:16 am to
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You, nor anyone else on here have any idea exactly what caused this man to have an unprecedented heart attack during the game.

WTF

Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8147 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:16 am to
A problem with the commotio cordis theory for Damar Hamlin (besides the extreme rarity especially with such a minor collision)… After the impact, he rose from prone to standing and took five steps. Asystolic patients don’t do that. His cardiac arrest happened well after impact.

Furthermore, as rare as commotio cordis is, the sports-related cases derive from focal precordial trauma, such as being struck by a small object —baseball or hockey puck— at very high velocity.

Does anyone know of any cases from an unremarkable football tackle? I can’t find one.

Meanwhile we’re seeing skyrocketing cases of collapse and sudden death of young healthy vaccinated athletes worldwide, most occurring without immediate proceeding trauma.

We know the vaccine causes myocarditis. It’s time to take our heads out of the sand.

LINK
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4887 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:17 am to
Let's be honest. The NFL would do everything in its power to shape the narrative away from anything that could possibly be related to a vaccine side effect.

That said, we don't know what caused his cardiac event. It could be the hit. It could be dehydration, genetic heart defect, etc. I'm not willing to rule out all possibilities, but if indeed he was vaccinated, then that should be one of the considerations.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5570 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:17 am to
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commotio cordis


this is an explanation regarding what happened. It also fits what happened.

This certainly could and does happen without any vax involvement. It literally is a lottery type of happening statistacally but it does happen and we all saw it last night.

Continued prayers.

ETA, I cannot find anything on how long after Vfib starts before loss of consciousness. I have seen "a few seconds" but wonder if it could have been up to 30 seconds before passing out. He got up quick, maybe did not start immediately. Too many questions right now.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 11:29 am
Posted by JYD
Pineville
Member since Oct 2003
7745 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:18 am to
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So 95% of the NFL has been vaccinated and this is the only time anything like this has happened in the NFL since the vaccines came out two years ago. Weird!


Keep telling yourself that this cannot be COVID vaccine related.

Meanwhile 3-4 weeks ago a healthy 44-year old female that I know personally had a blood clot & stroke.

This morning my mother texted me telling me that her best friends 36-year old daughter had a heart attack yesterday.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 11:20 am
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8147 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:21 am to
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this is an explanation regarding what happened. It also fits what happened. This certainly could and does happen without any vax involvement. It literally is a lottery type of happening statistacally but it does happen and we all saw it last night. Continued prayers.


There are zero instances of this ever happening in the nfl but there have been instances of players collapsing the past 2 yrs just as Hamlin did. And you don’t stand right back up.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 11:24 am
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1400 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:21 am to
If you don't consider it a possibility at this point, you're an uniformed f-n moron.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:22 am to
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Meanwhile 3-4 weeks ago a healthy 44-year old female that I know personally had a blood clot & stroke.

This morning my mother texted me telling me that her best friends 36-year old daughter had a heart attack yesterday.


My 42 year old life long best friend had to get the shot for work. He had a heart attack and died last spring. No warning or pre-existing conditions.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9645 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:23 am to
No no we can’t consider it yet because not all the players that got the shot have had heart trouble.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2533 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:25 am to
Petri dish

You spelled it wrong.. it is a “peach tree dish”…
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1400 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:25 am to
Let's see d-dimer tests on all these athletes.
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
767 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:27 am to
For some reason, the common misconception is that those of us concerned about dangerous side effects of the spike protein WANT the shot to be the culprit in all of these cases. Most people closest to me have received this shot, so I hope and pray that it is not to blame, but the sudden increase in cardiac arrests, especially in young, healthy males (with very efficient cardiovascular systems) is very concerning. No NFL player in NFL HISTORY has ever died from a hit on the field. So, again, I hope and pray that the spike protein in this mRNA shot is not the culprit, but it would be neglectful and continuously dangerous not to know this. This is not a malicious, disrespectful “agenda.” We all have the right to know this. Praying for this young man and his family. Praying they are seeing encouraging signs from any brain function testing.
Posted by Stonehog
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Member since Aug 2011
33333 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:27 am to
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A problem with the commotio cordis theory for Damar Hamlin (besides the extreme rarity especially with such a minor collision)… After the impact, he rose from prone to standing and took five steps. Asystolic patients don’t do that. His cardiac arrest happened well after impact.


None of this is accurate.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8147 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:29 am to
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None of this is accurate.

Elaborate bc it seems accurate to me.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9645 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:30 am to
You claimed people were wishing death on Hamlin. Can you provide any links?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123920 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:31 am to
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Only 25% survive if resuscitated within 3 minutes.

That makes no sense. Do you have a link?

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LIFEVEST
Lifevest has enough issues with burns and inadvertent firing in quiescent environments. It would be a no-go on the football field.
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