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re: Bill's Hamlin had a Cardiac Arrest

Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10220 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:03 pm to
The jab could have taken this dude out at any point during the season, but decides to stop his heart in the biggest MNF game of the season and just after he gets hit in the chest at full speed. The jab is ruthless, yo.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

It is known that the mRNA causes myocarditis. It is known that this can cause a heart to need a defibulater when the electrical signals fork up. Yet you refuse to even consider that this is the cause.



Why is it that covid itself is never considered as a factor in incidents like this? Covid is known to cause myocarditis.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39582 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:05 pm to
Who said that? Not me.

Just because the hit is "normal" doesn't mean it wasn't a hard hit. Anyone who played football knows this. Many hits are hard. The fact I got up or shook them off didn't make them less hard? Hell, I broke my hand on a much less violent hit. Don't be dumb.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42596 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

it look like a routine football play

that was my takeaway from the first view.

quote:

right force with the right angle to the right location at the right time the potential for commotio cordis is there

this is the new wrinkly that I have no credential for even questioning.

the fact that someone one this site mentioned that very thing an hour or two before the official announcements came out does more to persuade me it is legitimate than anything else.

in fact I was trying to describe the TD explanation to my wife but was not able to put all the right words together when I first heard the TV announcement --- I said =
"THAT is just what the guy on TD was saying!!!!!"
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:07 pm to
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It was a hard hit


In no way was his hit a "hard hit". It was a basic tackle, no sudden stops in momentum. You're lying for some strange reason.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10220 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10220 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:10 pm to
quote:


In no way was his hit a "hard hit". It was a basic tackle, no sudden stops in momentum. You're lying for some strange reason.


You're a dumb arse for no strange reason.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42596 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:13 pm to
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it's tough to imagine the blunted force of that particular impact (through shoulder pads) generating the kind of cardiac concussion required to initiate malignant dysrhythmia in a totally healthy subject.

this is 'top of mind' to me also - but I do not have enough basic knowledge to even speculate on it. More expertise in quantum mechanics, and you never hear me talk about that either.

I believe you made the post about this condition that I was trying to relate to my wife when the first official release of this possibility was issued on TV.

thanx
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52788 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:13 pm to
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You're a dumb arse for no strange reason.


So, you're unable to argue against the point, so all you have is namecalling. And i'm the dumbass?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11102 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:14 pm to
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There's only twice as many Likes as Views.


Evidence.

If the MSM and big tech are all on the same page about it you can rest assured it's not a coverup.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:14 pm to
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There will always be thoughts of Covid-19 shots causing cardiac issues


There are also thoughts of Covid causing cardiac arrests. Correct?
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10220 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:15 pm to
quote:


So, you're unable to argue against the point, so all you have is namecalling. And i'm the dumbass?


I argued against it on the previous page. Keep up.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123920 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Why is it that covid itself is never considered as a factor in incidents like this?
I guess because the NFL does not pressure/require players to catch Covid. But you are absolutely correct, CV19 does entail cardiac risks.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11102 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Over a period of assessment from 2006–12, the survival rate was 58 percent, which was an improvement over the years 1993–2006 when only 34 percent of victims survived.
This increase is likely due to prompt cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR), access to defibrillation, and higher public awareness of this phenomenon.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commotio_cordis#cite_note-:1-1
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Stonehog
quote:

How did they defibrillate him with the vaccine still in his body? Did they suck it out somehow?

yeah? Thats your question?

That ignorant shite checks out
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56351 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:28 pm to
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The point is that the only thing we know is that this exact combination of micro events has never happened before.

How does you or anyone know the exact combination of 'micro-events' taking place in that hit? Did someone have a bunch of monitoring devices hooked up to him at the time? That hit looked no different than any other hit, and no one can say with certainty what precisely happened to his body at the time. We can all speculate, but no one really knows, not even doctors.

Many conclusions we hear today are being driven by the media message from last night.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:28 pm to
Youtube no longer shows the number of dislikes on videos so that image is photoshopped.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28617 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:30 pm to
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He had a 200lb man lower his shoulder right into his chest at speed.



It's all probability. The probability is extreeeeeemely low for this to happen or it wouldn't be such a story. These hits do indeed happen every single game, I would contend.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:30 pm to
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In no way was his hit a "hard hit". It was a basic tackle, no sudden stops in momentum. You're lying for some strange reason.




YouTube Video of hit

at the :09 mark he crosses the 50 running from our right to our left. mostly going sideline to sideline, but definitely also has forward movement as well.

at :10 second mark, initial contact happens about a yard on the Cincy side of the 50.
With enough momentum that his arms go almost straight back (relative to direction his body is moving) upon impact.

at the :12 mark he hits the ground about a yard on the Buffalo side of the 50.

so a 6'4" man weighing 220# smokes him square in the chest at running speed. hard enough for his arms to extend backward and his body to go 6 feet into the opposite direction he was going.

that's a hard hit.

and i've heard of the possibility of people going into cardiac arrest from something like this (usually a baseball player getting line drived, or a car wreck, etc.) since I was a teenager. Which was a couple decades before Covid or the Vax even existed.

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