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Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:09 am to DangerousWafer
idiot
biden is commander and chief
bush and trump are not running the military right now
this all happened under biden's watch
it is biden's to own
biden is commander and chief
bush and trump are not running the military right now
this all happened under biden's watch
it is biden's to own
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:13 am to DangerousWafer
quote:
Afghanistan was lost the moment it began
Wait a minute…..
In your first post you said the mistake was not the withdrawal process but the withdraw itself.
Now you are saying Afghanistan was lost the moment it was begun.
If that is the case, why the hell should we stay there?
Typical idiot leftist. Talk from both sides of your mouth and don’t even have the intelligence to realize you contradict yourself.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:15 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:17 am to DangerousWafer
quote:
When you say things like that, you have to add some substance behind them otherwise it just devolves into 'he says, she says.'
Wrong!
When you blame Trump for Biden’s actions is beyond laughable! You should know why!
Dem playbook: any good isn’t from previous admin but all about them…anything bad, it’s on the previous. Got use to that from Obama lol.
This is on Biden! No one else
Blame Biden for ignoring intelligence and his incompetence
Biden: said this will NOT be another Saigon..... almost laughed at the notion of this happening.
Biden miscalculated..,see his previous statement about Saigon…which makes him Incompetent. Or he didn’t care, which makes him a terrible President. Either way, it’s a bad look for the man you voted for. Own it
Biden reversed ALL of Trump policies (keystone, Iran deal , Paris climate, etc.) but this is the one policy they were bound too. Trump said this would be dictated on intelligence on the ground. Taliban violated it…as you stated, over 1000 times…Biden said it wouldn’t be Conditioned based! This is on Joe
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:20 am to DangerousWafer
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I blame every US president rather than one individual for this withdrawal. Trump also had control for 4 years and was the one who brokered the deal to withdraw in the first place (and everyone conveniently ignores this). If we want to examine 20 years of foreign policy failure, you can't really ignore the administration that brokered a deal with the Taliban ;)
I think Biden's biggest mistake isn't the withdrawal but the fact that we're withdrawing in the first place. He gave in to political cowardice when anyone on the ground would tell you that the Afghan army has no loyalty to the cause or America.
Trumps mistake was believing that if he lost re-election the next man up would have a set of balls
Please....
refrain from posting to avoid further embarrassment
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:22 am to ApexTiger
quote:
Please....
refrain from posting to avoid further embarrassment
Could you imagine his reaction had Trump said: this won’t be another Saigon, almost laugh at that possibility. Then go into hiding at Camp David??
When China invades Taiwan…blame Trump
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:32 am to The Shed
Explain what, exactly? I'm glad we are getting out of there finally. It was going to be chaotic no matter when this occurred, and the Taliban were always going to go against their promises. If we kept waiting for them to adhere to some terms of agreement before leaving, we would never leave.
It was time to finally rip the bandaid off and get our people out of there.
It was time to finally rip the bandaid off and get our people out of there.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:34 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:This isn't chaotic you frick.
It was going to be chaotic no matter when this occurred
quote:But the Turnip didn't do that nor did he state that even a few weeks ago.
It was time to finally rip the bandaid off and get our people out of there.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:35 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Except we left thousands of Americans there because Biden thought the afghans would protect them from the taliban. Biden is a disgrace.
et our people out of there.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:36 am to Mickey Goldmill
Where is your President *? Why is he hiding?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:37 am to tigafan4life
quote:
Except we left thousands of Americans there because Biden thought the afghans would protect them from the taliban. Biden is a disgrace.
Link? What Americans were still there when they knew we were withdrawing? Our embassy was fully evacuated.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:37 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:FFS why are C-17s running over people taxiing out?
Link? What Americans were still there when they knew we were withdrawing? Our embassy was fully evacuated.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:38 am to Mickey Goldmill
It was fully evacuated TO THE CIVILIAN AIRPORT you fricking idiot.
There are still Americans stuck on the ground. Evacuation planes have halted because Afghans keep swarming the tarmac. This has been completely fricking fricked and your administrations silence says everything.
We have humiliated ourselves on the global stage. Do you care about that anymore or only when Republicans are president?
There are still Americans stuck on the ground. Evacuation planes have halted because Afghans keep swarming the tarmac. This has been completely fricking fricked and your administrations silence says everything.
We have humiliated ourselves on the global stage. Do you care about that anymore or only when Republicans are president?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:40 am to memphis tiger
quote:
If that is the case, why the hell should we stay there?
How exactly is that a contradiction you dingus?
We should never have gone in but the decision was made and we should have stuck to it. Once we were there, the calculus had already been made and if we withdrew, we would lose.
The only non-negative outcome from entering would be if we had stayed there indefinitely.
quote:
Typical idiot leftist. Talk from both sides of your mouth and don’t even have the intelligence to realize you contradict yourself.
Typical idiot Conservative. Doesn't have the intelligence to realize that being there changes the calculus.
It's not a contradiction to believe that entering was a mistake but also believe that withdrawing is also a mistake.
The only non-negative outcome is if we stayed there, not withdrew.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:41 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:42 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Are you this fricking dense??> They are at the airport and told them to shelter in fricking place. JEsus
Link? What Americans were still there when they knew we were withdrawing? Our embassy was fully evacuated.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:44 am to DangerousWafer
quote:
Typical idiot Conservative.
And you were crying about name calling
What a fricking clown you are
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:45 am to DangerousWafer
idiot
once again: nothing prevented an organized withdrawal other than poor planning from the biden admin.
That's a fact.
once again: nothing prevented an organized withdrawal other than poor planning from the biden admin.
That's a fact.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:45 am to The Shed
quote:
You have some explaining to do. Let's hear it.
For fulfilling the treaty trump and Pompeo made with the Taliban? If I recall correctly, trump promised to remove all our troops from Afghanistan by May 1.
Now, I don't necessarily agree with Biden complying with trump's stupidity. But it's clear that no matter what year this might have been, 2021, 2030, 2050, whatever, Afghanistan would have quickly reverted back to Taliban control. Why? BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF AFGHAN MEN APPROVE OF THE TALIBAN'S RELIGIOUS DOGMA. In the end, this collapse is on Afghans, themselves, and in the end only they will change their own society.
Remember, also, that we invaded Afghanistan to rid that country of Al Qaeda, not to rebuild it. It's hilarious to me that trumpians in this country are suddenly in love with democracy for Afghans while they seek to diminish it at home. Or that any amount of money would have been justified.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:46 am to SDVTiger
quote:
And you were crying about name calling
I don't give a damn about the name calling as long as you made some points alongside it.
You can name call me as much as you want but at least provide some points for discussion.
Absolute clown. Insult me as much as you want but provide some points alongside. You've done none of that.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:46 am to DangerousWafer
quote:
Which is why I said Biden shares some of the blame.
Yeah like 95%. I would put the other 5% on his team.
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