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re: Biden stopped the executions of 37 men. Trump's DOJ wants to punish them

Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:12 am to
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12623 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:12 am to
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We already know
Absolutely devoid of any self-awareness
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7967 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:28 am to
Hey you dumb whore any plans to actually address the question?
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13920 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:28 am to
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The government is spending more money to make already condemned people suffer more because it feels good to some voters.


If they on death row, their crimes were the worst of the worst. I see no problem in this.

They really need to bring back public hangings or the guillotine. Wish they’d put that up for a public vote. You kill someone, this is what happens.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 7:29 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21532 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:44 am to
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We already know, conclusively, that harsher punishments do not deter crime. Longer sentences don’t deter. Supermax conditions don’t deter. Making prison more miserable doesn’t deter


Your full of criticism but offer no alternatives. Whats your solution?
A big hug?
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15035 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:45 am to
Stop defending murderers douche
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120145 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:56 am to
Cubbies wants more holistic programs. Snacks. Counseling sessions. Trips to theme parks. We can rehab these young men.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
12967 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:30 am to
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We already know, conclusively, that harsher punishments do not deter crime.

El Salvador was essentially a failed state run by criminal gangs. Until they elected a president who quickly incarcerated approximately 1% of the population in horrific conditions.

Violent crime dropped by over 90%.

Not only did harsh punishment remove the criminals from the equation, it deterred new criminals from taking their place.

You are simply wrong about this.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18079 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:47 am to
She believes lies and theories. None of what she has posted is borne out in reality.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42311 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:47 am to
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We already know, conclusively, that harsher punishments do not deter crime. Longer sentences don’t deter. Supermax conditions don’t deter. Making prison more miserable doesn’t deter.


Bull

shite.

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15486 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:51 am to
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certainty of detection and enforcement are the meaningful deterrents.


Harsher sentences are a product of enforcement. When prosecutors and judges give violent criminals light sentences or no sentence at all, they are free to commit more crimes.

By acknowledging that enforcement is a deterrent, you’re admitting that harsher punishment does in fact deter crime.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35516 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:53 am to
Damn, passing clots the size of basketballs this morning, Princess.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1149 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:56 am to
What is the crime rate among people who have been executed? I hear it’s something like 0.00000%. The crime rate among people serving life in prison is also pretty low, especially against normal law-abiding people. Both definitely lower than the crime rate among people who have been released from prison.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 8:58 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59277 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:05 am to
Who doesn’t want snacks?

Next time you’re irritated because I’m treating you like a troll, remember this post.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2434 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:17 am to
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We already know
Absolutely devoid of any self-awareness


EVERY SINGLE DAY there is a new story about a violent criminal that one of these progressive judges set free that goes out and kills an innocent person or seriously injures an innocent person. Last week alone it was acid attacks on one female and nail in the eye for an elderly woman.

Just two of hundreds of examples and the OP starts a thread with that statement.

And still gets 10 pages of attention.

Just let the OP gaslight their latest lie, ignore it, and move on.

You can't debate or coexist with people like this. They actively want you and your family put in danger.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85001 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:27 am to
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You can't debate or coexist with people like this. They actively want you and your family put in danger.

Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21575 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:32 am to
Safe to say, regardless of your politics, neither the Unibomber or the Boston Marathon bomber will ever murder an innocent person again. That works for many of us.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120145 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:56 am to
Do you indoctrinate your children with this nonsense?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15486 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:01 am to
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I am not claiming that punishment severity is irrelevant at the margins or that a $1 fine for speeding would be effective. That’s a straw man. Every serious criminologist acknowledges there is a baseline level of punishment required for a law to have meaning.


A large percentage of the American left are anti incarceration and claim that you can’t incarcerate your way to lower crime. This mindset has motivated progressive prosecutors and judges to hand down the most lenient sentences if they hand down any sentence at all. This mindset has led to repeat offenders being on the streets and free to commit more crimes. If there’s a “baseline” that exists, then it must be little to no punishment at all because that’s what the American left does in practice.

You’re trying to conclude that harsher punishment isn’t a deterrent to crime when the harsher punishment part of the equation isn’t even happening. You can’t point to repeat offenders as proof that harsher sentences don’t deter crime when those offenders were never given harsher punishment in the first place.

Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15486 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:09 am to
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What changes behavior is visible enforcement, not legislatures quietly increasing penalties. Troopers on the road, speed traps, and cameras change behaviors. Not laws


No one is arguing that enforcement of the law doesn’t change behavior but that it’s meaningless if there isn’t severe punishment that follows the enforcement. Checkpoints and patrols most certainly deter people from drinking and driving but they’re of little value without the tens of thousands of dollars in fines, increased insurance costs, suspension of license and other penalties that drinking and driving carries.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1656 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 10:29 am to
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We already know, conclusively, that harsher punishments do not deter crime. L


The US doesn't hand out harsh punishments. Singapore is a country of 6 million people and had 191 break-ins in 2023. Why? Because people will go to prison for at least a couple of years.

Birmingham alone sees about 1500 in a year. Why? Because the punishments are weak and ineffective and people go to prison for less than a year (for a similar unarmed/no bodily harm situation as in Singapore).
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