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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:47 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:47 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Globalism = Hegemony of the Western Central Bankers you fricking retard.
You say this with such conviction when this is at least the 3rd different definition of "globalism" in this thread.
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
And I assume you posted your premise — that the United States playing Global Robo-Cop is actually a blow against “globalism?” — with conviction.
Serious question: is your OP a troll or are you legitimately retarded?
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:55 pm to Good Times
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So what? The principle is still in play.
He’s peak clown world at this point. This is 20 pages of his mental masturbation.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:57 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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And I assume you posted your premise — that the United States playing Global Robo-Cop is actually a blow against “globalism?” — with conviction.
Depends largely if we did so with or without the consent of our allies
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:59 pm to Flats
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He’s peak clown world at this point. This is 20 pages of his mental masturbation.
The Cold War is not relevant to the current scenario. Russia is not the USSR. They're much weaker. They could never project an enemy on our doorstep like they did in Cuba, in the 60s.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:01 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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that the United States playing Global Robo-Cop is actually a blow against “globalism?” — with conviction.
No it was a joke poking fun at the malleable concept of "globalism", in light of the new disinfomemes being posted.
If the disinfo memes are correct, then Biden has done more to thwart globalism than Trump ever did. That's 100% correct.
The problem is the disinfo memes are likely complete bullshite.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:05 pm to Flats
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He’s peak clown world at this point. This is 20 pages of his mental masturbation.
You got that right.
slomo has to rank high on the autistic scale if he legitimately believes he is making a coherent argument here.
I forget the exact issue but this retard had the nerve to once claim I didn’t have the intellectual heft to think through what I was proposing.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:12 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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slomo has to rank high on the autistic scale if he legitimately believes he is making a coherent argument here.
I am, in spite of multiple definitions of "globalism" being used and people totally not supporting Putin while defending his actions for multiple pages AND drive bys by Decatur where I don't engage in whataboutism like you and keep a consistent philosophy/ideology.
I also cooked baked salmon with brown rice and steamed green veg just now while doing it.
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I forget the exact issue but this retard had the nerve to once claim I didn’t have the intellectual heft to think through what I was proposing.
I have changed my tune. I think you're just too emotional to really construct coherent points without having to rely on overused talking points.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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people totally not supporting Putin while defending his actions for multiple pages
This is disingenuous. We should be able to discuss the actions of even our worst enemy and attempt to understand their logic, what motivates them, etc, without being called their supporters.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:32 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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This is disingenuous
It's really not.
People are being pussies trying to act sly about what they are/aren't supporting/defending.
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We should be able to discuss the actions of even our worst enemy and attempt to understand their logic, what motivates them, etc, without being called their supporters.
Sure, and when those points are logically and correctly described as irrational or ineffective, the discussion should be over. It's not and the memetic responses continue.
See you have done a reasonable discussion about it. Nobody has accused you of defending or supporting Putin. You're not only posting talking points, though.
I mean shite somebody brought up the goddamn "bio lab" theory in this thread.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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drive bys by Decatur
Disagree with this characterization. Couldn't keep up with this thread all day. Feel free to disagree with me about the prevalence of "globalism" as anti-Semitic code but I'm hardly the first person to point this stuff out. Other than that I mostly agree with you on everything else you posted.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:39 pm to Decatur
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Disagree with this characterization.
That post was me joking around but this is fair, especially since I do have a term involving the words "drive by"
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Sure, and when those points are logically and correctly described as irrational or ineffective, the discussion should be over.
Who makes this determination? You?
Seems a bit narcissistic to assume you are the arbiter of rationale and effectiveness, and that the argument is over when you say it is over.
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I mean shite somebody brought up the goddamn "bio lab" theory in this thread.
The United States has rightfully earned a lot of mistrust and skepticism. This type of talk is generally anti-MIC or anti-corruption, rather than pro-Russia.
After all, conspiracy theories are the new truth.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
I actually think I understand your OP and maybe agree with it. You're pointing out that Biden's plan to blow up the pipeline was stupid and will hurt Europe more than Russia, correct?
Also, relatedly, what motivation would Russia or Europe have to blow up this pipeline? The US really seems like the only party who could or would have blown it up.
Also, relatedly, what motivation would Russia or Europe have to blow up this pipeline? The US really seems like the only party who could or would have blown it up.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:55 pm to Riverside
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Also, relatedly, what motivation would Russia or Europe have to blow up this pipeline?
Russia wasn't going to let gas flow through it, possibly for a year+ while this conflict (and the resulting sanctions) continues.
This gives them a reason other than response to the sanctions, so they don't look like a bad guy.
Same reason they came up with a bullshite argument around Ukraine joining NATO (you can see how effective that is by seeing how often people have cited it in this thread alone).
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:56 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Who makes this determination? You?
Tryin to
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Russia wasn't going to let gas flow through it, possibly for a year+ while this conflict (and the resulting sanctions) continues. This gives them a reason other than response to the sanctions, so they don't look like a bad guy.
You've been saying this all day and it's still pretty weak sauce. Not sure who you're trying to convince, exactly.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
Couldn't they just as easily turn off the pipeline? What good does unsold natural gas do them? Also, why not blow the pipeline closer to Russian territorial waters? Just asking questions here.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:59 pm to Riverside
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Couldn't they just as easily turn off the pipeline?
No, see...
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:02 pm to Riverside
Johnstone here is anti-imperalist left.
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