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re: Biden announces more college debt forgivness

Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:13 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266204 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:13 am to
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This is the opposite of populism.


Free college has long been a populist staple

Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
2381 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:16 am to
While your at it, go get your EBT card you leech!
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
41136 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:37 am to
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Doctors have a million avenues in addition to PSLF. Rural hospitals will pay off their SLs for a short-term contract in addition to salaries with major benies.


But they could pay me more if Biden forgave my loans. If Biden is going to ignore the law and SCOTUS and screw the taxpayers I want to get mine.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7679 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:40 am to
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others who are actually contributing to society instead of baristas with a liberal arts degree.


Baristas arent a public service job.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432453 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:45 am to
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. If Biden is going to ignore the law and SCOTUS

He's not in this example
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35843 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:46 am to
Do people actually believe this BS? I would love to be shown one real life person that actually has had their debt forgiven by Biden
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
9264 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 10:52 am to
Man I been running my check book wrong all these years. Why not spend spend spend spend spend spend spend spend spend spend it all away? Let someone else bail me out. Get a degree in liberal arts basket weaving and get mad bc no serious company wants to hire me bc I'm some loon wanting a 3 hour work day at 22 yr old. This is crazy the supposed conservatives are doing nothing. I always assume they have a plan but later find out they are either complicit or they are spineless. It's generally both.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
41136 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:05 am to
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If Biden is going to ignore the law and SCOTUS He's not in this example


quote:

SlowFlowPro


He is forgiving the loans so yes he is
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20566 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:24 am to
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Free college has long been a populist staple


Well this isn’t an example of free college. It’s more like a refund.

It’s pretty damn stupid seeing the word populism thrown around in this thread as if it adds anything to the discussion.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37857 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:28 am to
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I would love to be shown one real life person that actually has had their debt forgiven by Biden


My wife had her loans forgiven under the PSLF program in 2023.

To say it was "by Biden" is stupid, because the program existed long before he came into office. It's a program that anyone can use as long as they meet the qualifications.

There are a number of legal avenues, that have been around for a while, that can be used to forgive loans.

The one illegal avenue "Biden" tried, he was slapped down.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37857 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:30 am to
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Get a degree in liberal arts basket weaving and get mad bc no serious company wants to hire me bc I'm some loon wanting a 3 hour work day at 22 yr old.


The PSLF program that the OP mentions requires 10 years of payments and 10 years of full-time work in certain professions.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37857 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:31 am to
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He is forgiving the loans so yes he is


Potato isn't forgiving anything. Don't fall for the propaganda.

The Dept of Education is forgiving loans using a process created many years ago.

Now, if you disagree with the PSLF program, that's awesome. But that program was passed by Congress and pre-dates Biden.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37857 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:34 am to
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Although he temporarily expanded the qualifying payments, he didn’t create the program, so I’m not sure why he needs to announce anything.


Biden is claiming credit in an election year for a program he didn't create.

It's typical election year propaganda.

And the idiots on the PT are falling, HARD, for it.

We should be mocking Biden for putting this press release out, not melting down over it.
Posted by self_service
Member since Oct 2016
642 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:37 am to
When Dems have power they use it to reward their base at the expense of their enemies. Identify demographics that are left-wing and find ways to shift money from right-wingers to them.

When Republicans are in power they do nothing with it, because imagine if Dems were to get power one day, they might use it for themselves.
Posted by BlueMoonOfKentucky
Member since Feb 2024
278 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:40 am to
Cause the party of molech is above the law.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68860 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:40 am to
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If this program already exists and the law is merely working as intended, what did he need to "fix"?


This law already existed.

My wife is doing it

But it isn't the same thing as eliminating debt for anybody with student loans.

Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
26072 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:46 am to
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The Supreme Court’s conservative majority in June ruled that President Joe Biden didn’t have the authority to cancel student debt for millions of Americans.

He’s still trying.

quote:

In what one legal scholar described as “a very direct confrontation with the Court,” Biden held a press briefing from the White House just hours after the justices issued their verdict.

“Today’s decision has closed one path,” the president said. “Now we’re going to pursue another.”

That alternative plan, which has become known as Biden’s Plan B, could forgive student debt for as many as 10 million people, according to one estimate. The president may try to deliver that relief before November.


It's even CNBC saying it. USSC says he DOES NOT have the authority to forgive student loan debt. You ignorant leftist arse. I have discussions with liberal coworkers. I freaking amazed at how they don't know shite. Same with you. IGNORANT. Hate having discussions with such ignorant people. It's useless and annoying. Go learn something.

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This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4923 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:50 am to
From reading this article, it doesn’t look like Biden did anything. It looks like the loan servicer finally got caught up and fixed mistakes on peoples PSLF. Even though people weren’t required to make payments for the COVID years, those years still counted toward PSLF if you applied for it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37857 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:54 am to
quote:

It's even fricking CNBC saying it


So now CNBC is telling the truth? LOL

quote:

USSC says he DOES NOT have the authority to forgive student loan debt.


The USSC said the specific program he proposed, he did not have authority on his own to implement.

The USSC said NOTHING about the pre-exisiting program that Congress has put into law.

Biden is trying to take election year credit for something he didn't do.

What's next?

Biden taking credit for the post office delivering today's mail?

Biden taking credit because someone had a nice hike in a national park?

Biden taking credit because someone received their tax refund check today?

Biden is making you and others look like fools because he has y'all falling for the hype. Just stop it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432453 posts
Posted on 3/21/24 at 11:59 am to
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He is forgiving the loans

Per federal statute specifically authorizing this forgiveness, which was not ruled on by the USSC.

They ruled he couldn't rely on a different law that had nothing to do with general loan forgiveness. That's inapplicable here.
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