re: ‘Biden and Me’: DeSantis Privately Tells Donors Trump Can’t Win

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He did!

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Did those words come from Trump? The pictures don't matter.

Trump is the one using and quoting left wing media in his attack ads.

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going to be extremely difficult for a Republican to win after 4 years of Trump. Maybe not impossible, but very difficult.

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I think that ship has sailed for Republicans, period. It's a daily debate of not just who can beat Biden, but if also. That this is even a question that anyone wouldn't win in a landslide over Biden is scary. As I said, it's even scarier and completely lost if it truly isn't due to illegitimate elections. Who is doing better under Biden as an average citizen?

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You are in the conservative minority.

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I am in the minority because I am conservative.

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You like your presidents to be spectators to the two tier doj, the fbi in churches, the 87k irsa agents.

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How could you arrive at such a retarded notion as this given what I've posted?

Do you realize all those things - two tier DOJ, FBI in churches, 87K IRS agents - those are realities, in significant part, because of Trump's failures?

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“I think the voters want to move on from Biden,” adding, “They just want a vehicle they can get behind” but “there’s just too many voters that don’t view Trump as that vehicle.

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EXACT SAME THING that Romney just said

But I hate to give Romney some credit. At least he recognizes its just a "tiny wing" of the party that spouts this. Ron is absolutely tone deaf about his strength against the most recent republican president

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Wow, to believe what you just wrote, you are definitely a paid Ronbot or you forgot to take off your Patriot Front uniform after work today.

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Weak. And typical of so-called conservatives that cannot find it in themselves to be critical of Trump.

Well said Mr. President.

BOOM!

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Because he’s a binary moron. There are Trumpets and the enemy, and the enemy always fits into a box they’ve imagined in their head. If you think there’s a better option than Trump you obviously must be a Biden supporter, because that’s what the box says. It also says things like establishment cuck, the queer spelling of the word “boy”, un-American, etc etc etc.

Any statement remotely critical of The Leader means you fit in the box. Don’t look for any rational reason, like maybe the actual ideas you have about government, who you’ve voted for in the past, and certainly not your own words that they can read here (presumably) for themselves.

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It's like trying to figure out Allman Brothers lyrics without the internet.

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Desantis has no chance of getting the votes that Trump got, none.

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In 2016 and 2020 there were over 5.5 million people who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but not Trump. The majority of these people live in suburban counties. They're not natural allies of the Democratic coalition, they're Republicans and Independents (who traditionally vote Republican). They hate Trump and will never vote for him. They voted for Republicans they literally couldn't ID out of a lineup but not Trump, and those down-ballot Republicans weren't running against 78 year-old racists with dementia. These people voted for Republicans who faced better opponents than Biden, yet they didn't vote for the Republican facing off against the weakest Democrat. That's a HORRIBLE look for Trump.

Trump underperformed other Republicans in nearly every single suburban county in 2016 and 2020. DeSantis would be able to bring the overwhelming majority of these 5.5 million voters back into the fold because he doesn't have baggage and gets shite done. There are plenty of suburban voters in FL who voted for him in 2022 who have never voted for Trump and never will vote for him.

I hate to break it to you, but the suburban voters in GA who voted for Kemp and all state-wide Republicans not-named Herschel Walker are never voting for Trump. Suburban voters in AZ who voted for Kimberly Yee but not Lake and Masters are never voting for Trump. The suburban voters in VA who voted for Youngkin but not Trump in 16/20 are not going to vote for Trump in 2024. The suburban voters in WI who voted for Ron Johnson and Congressional/State Legislature Republicans in 2022 but not Tim Michels are never voting for Trump.

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Desantis winning the primary guarantees a dem victory.

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Trump has already lost to Biden. We know that for a fact. So why not give DeSantis a chance?

Trump's only win (2016) was because he was facing the most hated Democrat in history, who was also the 2nd most hated candidate in the history of Presidential polling (Trump was number one), and he needed the help of Jill Stein. Trump won MI, PA, and WI by fewer than 78K combined votes. Jill Stein took over 132K votes away from Hillary in those 3 states. Without Jill Stein's help, Trump loses those states and therefore the election, as he would've been under 270 EV. In 2020, Dems restricted Green Party ballot access in the swing states. Howie Hawkins, the Green Party candidate, was reduced to being a write-in candidate and he received fewer than 15K combined votes in MI, PA, and WI. Dems will once again restrict ballot access in the swing states for Green Party candidates in 2024.

So because Trump won't get the help from a Green Party candidate to play spoiler and because his opponent (Biden) is nowhere near as despised as Hillary was in 2016, he can't win. He needed both of those things in his favor just to barely squeak out a win. When neither of those things were in his favor, like in 2020, he lost and he lost badly. He had over 300 EV's put on him and a 7+ Million PV deficit. The majority of the country dislikes Biden. They think he's a bad President. However, they don't hate him. There's a difference. They HATE Trump, and when push comes to shove, the Independent voters who matter will vote for the guy they dislike over the guy they hate.

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And then cry whenever the Democrat nominee wins.

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Like you’re doing now?

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In 2016 and 2020 there were over 5.5 million people who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but not Trump

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uh, now do the down ballot race of Mayor in Jacksonville, FLORIDA. It just went DIM for the first time in 30 years

And Ron wants to make America, Florida?

He needs to stay home and help those down ballot wafflers you love to look like an idiot for posting about