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re: Bessent is considering throwing nearly $1 trillion into bond market intervention

Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:04 am to
Well yields are down today but that is based on reports traffic is moving through SOH and oil prices lowering. Maybe this news helped some too but honestly if oil comes down the yield will be manageable again.

Funny how no one bitched about bond yields when they were higher at almost 5% in 2023.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:05 am to
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Funny how no one bitched about bond yields when they were higher at almost 5% in 2023.


I hope you're directing this at Scott Bessent and not stout.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:10 am to
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I hope you're directing this at Scott Bessent and not stout.


Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2258 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:14 am to
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I hope you're directing this at Scott Bessent and not stout.


Right, that isn’t directed at Stout. More so at other knee jerk reactions over yields.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184684 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:15 am to
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More so at other knee jerk reactions over yields.


IDK how it's a knee-jerk reaction
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:15 am to
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The mitigating news is that we are in the same boat as China and Russia as well as the Europeans.
The problem is, you can only survive on TINA (there is no alternative) for so long. It's a precarious position that can go sideways very, very quickly.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
184684 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:17 am to
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Ray Dalio on how the imminent U.S. Debt crisis will be tackled-

“We’re going to do it the way that we always do it. When countries essentially go broke, what they do is a combination of devaluing the currency and printing of money."

"They create an artificially low interest rate so that the person who’s holding the bonds is receiving an artificially low interest rate. That’s the way Japan has done it.. and that’s the way we will do it.”



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Hold onto your butts...and hoard assets
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63987 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:20 am to
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Ray Dalio on how the imminent U.S. Debt crisis will be tackled-

“We’re going to do it the way that we always do it. When countries essentially go broke, what they do is a combination of devaluing the currency and printing of money."

"They create an artificially low interest rate so that the person who’s holding the bonds is receiving an artificially low interest rate.
Honestly, this isn't something we will do. We've been actively doing it for a while.

History compresses things. Things that happened slowly look more sudden in the rear view.
This post was edited on 8/24/26 at 10:22 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:25 am to
Fair point
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111654 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:26 am to
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The problem is, you can only survive on TINA (there is no alternative) for so long. It's a precarious position that can go sideways very, very quickly.


Seems likely to me that we have long passed the point where there is ANY position we could take that would not be deemed "precarious" and that could possibly "go sideways very, very quickly," no?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99798 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:27 am to
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..and hoard assets


But listen to Nick Gurleys data which says 2008 is gonna happen to housing but worse


And you are again calling it a correction after saying this
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60296 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:33 am to
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How’s it’s not failed at 40 trillion in debt?


The USD is still the skinniest kid at Fat Camp, but that can last only so long while Congress keeps over-indulging.

Essentially the USD has failed as GDP has started to become dependent on high deficit spending (ie: a step beyond being addicted to government spending in general) and there's no political will to fix it because of the economic issues just balancing the budget would cause (much less generating enough revenue to have a surplus).

It's not a matter of "if" any longer, but "when".
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63987 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:34 am to
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Seems likely to me that we have long passed the point where there is ANY position we could take that would not be deemed "precarious" and that could possibly "go sideways very, very quickly," no?
Truth. It's going to get harder and harder to be Treasury Secretary.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184684 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:36 am to
Your willingness to let your hatred for one or two people make you ignore data is fascinating

Nick may say hyperbolic things, but the data his app compiles is one of many I follow. I read CoreLogic, ATTOM, MBA, and a few others pretty religiously. Nick's app is not in that category, but it still has some very good information if you go into it with a willingness to form your own analysis. That might be hard for you, though.



Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4147 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:37 am to
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“We’re going to do it the way that we always do it. When countries essentially go broke, what they do is a combination of devaluing the currency and printing of money."

"They create an artificially low interest rate so that the person who’s holding the bonds is receiving an artificially low interest rate. That’s the way Japan has done it.. and that’s the way we will do it.”

Hold onto your butts...and hoard assets




Bingo ...







Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12479 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:42 am to
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So we don’t know if this is real, just speculation, but if it is real people are now mad they’re trying something to lower the debt?

You know you don’t have to post in threads where you lack the requisite knowledge to intelligently weigh in just to defend the admin. It’s OK to not post and have us forget for at least a brief moment how low IQ you are.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21272 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 10:50 am to
Another trillion right to the top to cover tens of trillions in bad bets. 2008 was only the warm up. US is bankrupt and will default in our lifetimes.
But FIRST, we need another trillion to bail out the Too Big Too Fail AGAIN…
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99798 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:47 am to
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Nick's app is not in that category, but it still has some very good information


How can it be good informatuon if hes been wrong about everythibg for years

You tell everyone to buy assests then say housing will have a correction which is just you masking what you want to claim which is a major crash like 08 like Nick has said for the last decade
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
92408 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:50 am to
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onmymedicalgrind


onmymenstrualgrind

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99798 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 11:56 am to
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onmymenstrualgrind


dude has one of the lowest iqs ever. A DEI hire
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