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re: Bernie and warren: “K-12 is already free, why not college”
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:49 pm to DavidTheGnome
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:49 pm to DavidTheGnome
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And watch society dissolve into chaos over the coarse of a generation.
this is happening anyway and a lot of it is fueled by public schools
California just passed a law that disruptive kids can't even be disciplined.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:50 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I would be very interested in seeing the actual cost of "free healthcare and "free post secondary education" along with student loan forgiveness.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:53 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
So how much of your paycheck are you already donating to help people with their healthcare and education?
Or are you one of those people that is only "charitable" when the government forcibly takes your or someone else's money?
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:When did they stop paying teachers?
K-12 is already free
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:03 pm to MarkFromBuffalo
quote:Its not. We (well some of us) pay isht ton in taxes for it.
why shouldn't education be free
quote:If it valuable... why should it be free? Should golf be “free”. That isht is valuable isn’t it?
especially since most white collar jobs require a 4-year degree?
The idea that valuable, scarce and necessary things should be free is completely backwards.
quote:If this were the case people would pay for it willingly — not only at the end of a gun.
Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
K-12 isn’t free.
Just because people dont get a bill for it doesn’t mean they don’t pay for it.
Just because people dont get a bill for it doesn’t mean they don’t pay for it.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:09 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:And in many places you have to pay for the “free” public schools— that you wouldn’t dare send your kids to if you love them.
I don’t think these two know what free means. They’re not free at all.
The olin tip of that you get to pay for the private school you have to send them to because the “free”
schools aren’t worth a crap.
Why pay twice?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:28 pm to LSUAlum2001
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We pay for K-12 via state and/or property taxes
Hail,Hail is evidently one of those who are still in college, doesn’t work, doesn’t pay taxes (yet), doesn’t own property yet still gets to vote and tell others how their money should be spent. We have too many of these in our country thus our issues.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:41 pm to Zach
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Can't afford? Teach your kid at home
Have you met people?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The main flaw in his statement is that K-12 is in fact not free.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 5:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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K-12 is already free
Nice, I'll just pay half my property taxes this year.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:00 pm to MaximillianPayne
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I’m confused here as K-12 is certainly not free. Where do they think the money comes from to fund these public school districts?
K-12 school is free in the same sense that most highways are free unlike a toll road that you pay to use.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:07 pm to doubleb
And both are a scam and ripoff.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why not life in general? Why have an arbitrary cutoff like college?
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Did they include private schools too. State colleges are discounted already.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:10 pm to doubleb
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K-12 school is free in the same sense that most highways are free unlike a toll road that you pay to use.
My county tax says I help pay for schools.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
State/local vs federal is actually a pretty important difference.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:23 pm to doubleb
quote:Terrible comparison. People actually want to use toll roads. Imagine for a moment those "free" schools were suddenly like toll roads. You had to pay to send your kid there. How many would survive?
K-12 school is free in the same sense that most highways are free unlike a toll road that you pay to use.
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If you perform at a high level of excellence in K-12 college is absolutely free. Hell my wife made money
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