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Bernie and warren: “K-12 is already free, why not college”

Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:30 pm
Bernie on the tv at some rally spewing this

Heard it said by warren in a debate few weeks ago

Do these people really not think there is a fundamental difference between k-12 and higher education?
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:34 pm to
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Do these people really not think there is a fundamental difference between k-12 and higher education?


There shouldn't be. K-12 should be free market like college. Can't afford? Teach your kid at home or don't have one.
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Do these people really not think there is a fundamental difference between k-12 and higher education?

Of course they don't .... But it's how you get more socialists... After all they own academia
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12350 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:36 pm to
Oh it’s free alright. We’ll just take this amount from your check...
Posted by MarkFromBuffalo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:37 pm to
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Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:39 pm to
Yes and kids graduate high school with very little real world knowledge.

No critical thinking, but memorization.

No balancing checkbook, but x+y=z

No learning about taxes, except that we had a tea party back in the day
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:39 pm to
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Teach your kid at home or don't have one.


Have you not see some of these parents? Education is pretty low on their list of priorities. Also, ability to make a financial decision regarding if/when to to have children seems out of their realm of capabilities.

If K-12 wasn’t required by law, a certain segment of our population probably wouldn’t even bother.

Well, maybe only because it gets them out of the house for a bit.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34593 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:42 pm to
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.
yeah that’s nonsense. Everyone going to college for useless degrees does nothing to help improve society
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112359 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:43 pm to
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If K-12 wasn’t required by law, a certain segment of our population probably wouldn’t even bother.


In a free society why is that my responsibility?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:45 pm to
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K-12 is already free


Uh, no. It’s not.

These people are unreal.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:46 pm to
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why shouldn't education be free - especially since most white collar jobs require a 4-year degree?


Most only require a four year degree because so many people have a four year degree. It’s a diluted market. Making it more diluted isn’t going to help.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:47 pm to
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Our society improves as the population becomes healthier and more educated.


Making college free wouldn’t expand the amount of people who would attend college.

America has a higher degree rate than most European nations

We give ample loans to kids who come from poor families

There is not a student in America who can’t attend college because of cost
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35822 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:50 pm to
College is free in La. now if you make the grades.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:51 pm to
Is a high school diploma worth much anymore? There’s your answer
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29115 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:52 pm to
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There shouldn't be. K-12 should be free market like college. Can't afford? Teach your kid at home or don't have one.



And watch society dissolve into chaos over the coarse of a generation. Extremely shortsighted thinking all because you think it will save you some taxes.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:53 pm to
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There is not a student in America who can’t attend college because of cost


Making higher education “free” is an unsustainable proposition. Look at the way costs skyrocketed when the FedGov inserted itself into the student loan racket.

It’d be the educational equivalent of going from ObamaCare to single payer.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:55 pm to
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. Everyone going to college for useless degrees does nothing to help improve society
if only we had enough intelligent people in this country to solve that problem. Maybe not all degrees are free. Maybe not all years are free. Do you know that some states offer free tuition to state colleges?

That doesn't mean I support the way it's funded though?
Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
1259 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:55 pm to
I've got three kids in school and it's not free! I know we spend hundreds if not thousands per kid each year. 500 for dance team 300 for soccer team 300 to play football. And hundreds for books and room suplies.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:00 pm to
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yeah that’s nonsense. Everyone going to college for useless degrees does nothing to help improve society



Several thousand gender/ethnic studies graduates a year actually hurts society because they make up shite if there aren't enough problems. They can't do anything else.
Posted by MarkFromBuffalo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2018
624 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:44 am
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