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re: AZ Senate Passes 'Right to Discriminate' Bill

Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:04 pm to
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WEST HOLLYWOOD (CBSLA.com) — Southern California lawmakers who support legislation to discriminate against gays and lesbians now have one less hotspot to visit in West Hollywood. David Cooley, the founder of The Abbey Food & Bar located at 692 North Robertson Blvd., has announced the popular gay bar will add any legislator in any state who votes for “bills to allow for discrimination against LGBT people” to a “Deny Entry List.”


People, this is the free market at work.

One thing though, I'm getting tired of the narrative that this legislation is like Jim crow. This is not gov't sanctioned and publicly funded discrimination. This is gov't getting the frick out of the way of private businesses and their affairs when nobody is being hurt, stolen from or slandered/conned.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:04 pm to
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but I do not support any law or concept that takes freedom from anyone


this law restores freedom
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:04 pm to
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So much butthurt. Why are people pretending that this is even remotely ok? As a Christian, I disagree with Homosexuality as a lifestyle choice.

But this law is bullshite. Just because I disagree with something, doesn't give me the right to take it away IMO.

The entire point of this from the right was to overreact on gay issues and claim that its an attack on their rights. The only point in saying that, is to force an overreaction from the left.

Thats nothing less than provocation.


nonresponsive. move to strike.

sustained counselor.

witness, please answer the question.

yes, your honor.... [this is where you say something meaningful]
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:04 pm to
and after 20 pages on this board they have done a great job of it
Posted by CockCommander
Haha
Member since Feb 2014
2897 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:06 pm to
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this law restores freedom


Disagree.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41029 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:08 pm to
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People, this is the free market at work. :bow;
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77225 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:08 pm to
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Huh? Not a hard concept. I disagree with Homosexuality, but I do not support any law or concept that takes freedom from anyone, when their acts are non-violent.

Who is advocating taking freedoms from homosexuals in this thread?

I'm advocating giving all Americans the freedom to choose who they associate with. That includes gays, blacks, Hispanics, etc. They can choose who they associate with as well.
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You do not have the right to choose to discriminate.
And my argument is that you should.

No one should be forced to do business with anyone, for any reason.
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Not to mention, this bill has nothing to do with rights. Its completely political. They don't give one flying frick about rights. They care about causing a stir, and getting people foaming at the mouth.
True, but I think the premise behind it as it pertains to freedom of association is acceptable.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:08 pm to
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So much butthurt. Why are people pretending that this is even remotely ok? As a Christian, I disagree with Homosexuality as a lifestyle choice.

But this law is bullshite. Just because I disagree with something, doesn't give me the right to take it away IMO.

The entire point of this from the right was to overreact on gay issues and claim that its an attack on their rights. The only point in saying that, is to force an overreaction from the left.

Thats nothing less than provocation


Obviously you didn't read the bill. The language LITERALLY MIRRORS the strict scrutiny standard. It is state codification of pre-existing federal law. Do you disagree with strict scrutiny or separation of church and state?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:09 pm to
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Disagree.



fair enough,

we are at an impasse
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:09 pm to
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but I do not support any law or concept that takes freedom from anyone, when their acts are non-violent.


Using state force as retaliation against people who do not want to sell you a product is taking freedom away and the definition of violence.

You don't have freedom or any right to privately owned products. It doesn't belong to you.

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You do not have the right to choose to discriminate.


Dude, we discriminate every day of our lives even when we don't realize it. Discrimination is good for everybody of all races and both genders.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:14 pm to
I see people bring discriminated all the time because they are not allowed into certain clubs in Vegas?



Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:15 pm to
Based on what are they kept out?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:17 pm to
The way they look and dress.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35310 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Let's say I'm a gay videographer. Westboro Baptist calls me up and wants me to shoot, edit, and do some CGI on their anti-gay rally.

In your world, do I have to do it?



this was not a rhetorical question.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:25 pm to
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Sometimes you have to take a stand in what you believe is right no matter how unpopular


Funny thing to say here. The only exception being a Christian taking a stand for what he/she thinks is right no matter how unpopular it is.
This post was edited on 2/25/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4897 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:27 pm to
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These places would now have the right to discriminate against those they disagree with.
Yes, in a hypocritical two wrongs make a right kind of a way.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4897 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I do not support any law or concept that takes freedom from anyone, when their acts are non-violent.
plus
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You do not have the right to choose to discriminate.
Does not compute.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88976 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:34 pm to
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WEST HOLLYWOOD (CBSLA.com) — Southern California lawmakers who support legislation to discriminate against gays and lesbians now have one less hotspot to visit in West Hollywood. David Cooley, the founder of The Abbey Food & Bar located at 692 North Robertson Blvd., has announced the popular gay bar will add any legislator in any state who votes for “bills to allow for discrimination against LGBT people” to a “Deny Entry List.”


Yeah, now there's a meaningful gesture.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11609 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:47 pm to
I'm starting to think only the TD poli board could let this "debate" get to 20+ pages.

Y'all have topped texags.com. This is the place that keeps on giving.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 3:55 pm to
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TejasHorn


shite or get off the pot.
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