re: Ashli Babbitt’s Husband Sues D.C. Over Failure to Identify Officer Who Killed His Wife

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There's people here that think this was a justified murder?

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Is that a question to me? I never called it a justified murder.

She acted with reckless disregard for her own safety and I think it's absurd to whitewash the fact that this mother died in part because of her own unhinged behavior.

Was it a good shoot? I tend to think not. The photos showing the other law enforcement right around her doing more or less nothing certainly calls into question the idea that the shooter had any genuine fear of danger to himself/others.

Is there some hypocrisy on this board in particular about second guessing the officer involved here while not doing so in other police shootings? Probably.

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this mother died in part because of her own unhinged behavior

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Unhinged?

Huh?

How does that have anything to do with Ashli Babbitt shrieking uncontrollably and trying to climb through a broken window toward men with guns?

Moreover, it's pretty silly to ignore the scores of other pictures showing protestors ramming police lines and the like and act like other photos showing peaceable/cooperative assembly render those non-existent.

I hate getting into this stuff on here. You're smart enough to know that there were elements of Jan 6 that weren't particularly peaceful, and you should be able to acknowledge that without feeling like you're abandoning the cause/truth.

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Moreover, it's pretty silly to ignore the scores of other pictures showing protestors ramming police lines and the like and act like other photos showing peaceable/cooperative assembly render those non-existent.

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Are people ignoring that, I don't believe they are? I think what is happening is folks like yourself are only focusing on those pictures. We've seen Police lines under far more dangerous conditions the last few years, with far larger mobs pelting them, spitting on them, ramming into them, etc but what I don't remember is scores of Police holding their line and out of nowhere one of them draw their side arm on a crowd and fire indiscriminately into the crowd.

I'd agree, the Veteran who was shot was caught up in the mob, but lets not pretend it was the mob's idiocy alone that caused this. Mixed messages were sent by the Capitol Police because there were instances of them opening doors for the mob, taking selfies with the mob and standing by as the mob walked the halls. That lack of preparedness and inconsistent reaction, made this more dangerous than it should have been.

In the end, the person shot was not resisting arrest because no attempt at arrest was being made. She was not fleeing arrest because again, no attempt at arrest was being made. You could possibly say the officer shot out of suspicion but even if he had targeted Babbitt, a good kill being held up in court probably wouldn't happen, but again, no attempt at arrest was made so even suspicion can't be used to justify the shooting.

If this was justified it should be tried like any other Police shooting that has happened over the years, publicly. I want to know what justification the officer had to fire indiscriminately into a crowd while other Cops stood by monitoring the situation with rifles and felt no need to open fire and made no attempt to quell the rioters.

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bipartisan commission flush all of this out for the historical record.

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lol.

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Almost sounds like we should have a bipartisan commission flush all of this out for the historical record.

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Or just let the proper investigative authorities that are already on the case do their job. Much of what I mentioned, the report that came out a day or two ago agreed with. Forgive me for disagreeing with you, but neither side of the aisle is capable of being non partisan at this point so any "bipartisan" commission would be nothing more than a bunch of political grandstanding by both parties at a time when there are a lot more important things going on in this world. The last big distraction was the Trump impeachment part 2 which tied up our politicians who otherwise might have been involved in the briefings about the Pandemic

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I understand why you would not want certain things to come to light and preserved in the historical record.

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Probably trolling, but the reality is that this is sad. We should have a country where we can throw the BLM riots and murders or the Jan 6 unrest to a semi-objective, respected, apolitical body and get semi-objective results for our history.

We don't have that.

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I understand why you would not want certain things to come to light and preserved in the historical record.

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Bi partisan mean it would be made up of the same people who were part of all the other sham investigation committees. Yeah that would really prove what actually occurred.