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re: As a mostly conservative person why should I be against any and all abortion?

Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:01 am to
Posted by GeorgeWest
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:01 am to
Only conservative Evangelicals and Catholics have theologians who think life begins at conception.

In Exodus, the penalty for making a female miscarry was a fine levied by the father for the child that miscarried. If you killed a pregnant female, you paid with your life. It was clear the life of a born person was valued above the life of a fetus.

My personal belief is that abortion in the first trimester is a decision to be made the woman carrying the fetus. And over 91% of abortions in the US are occur in the first trimester.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 1:13 am
Posted by GeorgeWest
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:12 am to
Theologians in the United Methodist Church, United Church of Christ (Congregational), Presbyterian Church (USA), and the Episcopal Church remain predominantly pro-choice.
Posted by King
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:26 am to
I don't give two shits about abortion. Hell i wish I was aborted with the way the world is.

I was dead for all of time until I was born. It didn't hurt one bit. I didn't care about anything. The only pain I have felt is from when I have been alive.
Posted by Bandit30
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 2:22 am to
I’m 100% right winging chicken eating pro abortion! Roe vs wade has actually saved this country! Liberals need to kill their kids! Stop these fricking TARDS from reproducing. Margaret Sanger was a vile evil count but she is probably responsible for saving our country. What would the USA look like without abortion?
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:34 am to
Plus all these aborted fetuses get a free ticket for eternity to heaven.

None of the pain or risk of life and they get the ultimate payoff
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 5:37 am to
quote:

Some people want to pay high taxes because they think it’s a moral issue


These people should stop calling themselves Conservatives. RINO will work.
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 5:38 am to
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Plus all these aborted fetuses get a free ticket for eternity to heaven.


Luckily the Catholics told Jesus that babies get to go to heaven in 2007.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:02 am to
STFU
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37547 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:05 am to
Where have we tried it? Please tell me. Because last I checked, ever since the 60’s and 70’s we’ve all been about subsidizing our of wedlock children and all about more and freer sex
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37547 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:07 am to
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I'm conservative as can be but abortion is not something I rate a candidate on.


At this point in my life, I think much more highly of a candidate that doesn’t bring up abortion than one that does on either side of the spectrum
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:08 am to
setting aside morals completely?


how about on an equal rights basis?

abortion takes males 100% out of the decision process

the woman has complete power to force a man to be a father

or to take away a man's future as a father

it's half his genetic material but he has no say in the matter, doesn't seem equal




Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37547 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:09 am to
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We should encourage abortion in these areas to lower the population of these vagrants


You just can’t get away from the eugenics foundation that abortion was formed for can you?

Why aren’t abortion clinics outside trailer parks but always in inner city ghettos?
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:16 am to
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I'm conservative as can be but abortion is not something I rate a candidate on.


This is a good insight. If a candidate for city court judge or mayor or school board runs on an anti abortion platform, they aren’t actually speaking to anything relevant to the office. Abortion has been used as a political campaign issue to manipulate gullible voters for many years.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37547 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:17 am to
so you should have no problem limiting abortions to 1st trimester then right?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:26 am to
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As long as the fetus doesn’t feel on what’s wrong with it? Let’s be honest this country would actually be better off if most of the Poors didn’t reproduce.


What a vapid take. No religion required. Wow.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:48 am to
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Leave your religion out of it


You realize that if you leave the ten commandments out of it, you cannot justify a blanket ban against murder, right?

Various societies who have rejected and continue to reject the ten commandments permit murder under a variety of circumstances (Roman infanticide, murder of Jews by Nazis, honor killings in the Mohammedan world).
Posted by mindbreaker
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Member since Dec 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:53 am to
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How about encouraging responsible behaviors instead?!


nothing is stopping you from doing that now.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25028 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:55 am to
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As a mostly conservative person why should I be against any and all abortion?

quote:

We should encourage abortion in these areas to lower the population of these vagrants

I hate to break it to you, but you sound like a liberal.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
4495 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 6:56 am to
I won't even try to answer your rediculous argument. Just consider yourself lucky your mom decided to keep you instead of aborting you.

This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 6:58 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 7:01 am to
it denies the unborn's chance of life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

The work around is the definition of life. Pro life folks have to use less ambiguity to support their position. Typically this is the case when you are on the correct side of an argument.
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